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NEWS: Protestors Demand Justice In Oakland Police Subway Shooting

Thursday, January 8, 2009

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Protesters wear signs on their backs that say ‘don’t shoot’ during a demonstration at the Fruitvale BART station Wednesday in Oakland, California.

grant.gif Oscar Grant was fatally shot in the back by a Bay Area Rapid Transit (B.A.R.T.) police officer early on New Year’s morning after police responded to reports of fighting on a train.

Protests, which began peacefully erupted shortly after Oscar Grant was laid to rest on Wednesday night.

According to CNN, the Oakland Police Department made 105 arrests, including a mass arrest of about 80 people at 11 p.m., said Officer Jeff Thomason. The charges include inciting a riot, vandalism, assault on a police officer and unlawful assembly, he said. One officer was injured, but not seriously, Thomason said.

Keep reading to view CNN video of the protesters in Oakland.

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1.

James

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

WOWWWWW!!!! I still cant believe this happened!!! :-(

2.

doublecheeseburger

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

I’m pro respect and anti- violence
but after what happened to this boy.. I would walk around with a sign on my forehead , this ish it crazy..im afraid to go outside..

3.

Liberty or Death

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

“The Oakland Police Department made 105 arrests, including a mass arrest of about 80 people at 11 p.m., said Officer Jeff Thomason. The charges include inciting a riot, vandalism, assault on a police officer and unlawful assembly, he said.”

No one arrested for stabbing one of those pigs?

5.

Chinky_Brown

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

One word….TRAGEDY!!!!

Even though Obama is about to take office racism is still ALIVE and kicking!!!

6.

KMBPYT

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

This whole situation is sad.

7.

QUEEN TEE

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

that officer needs to die! he took someone son, father life… now its his turn!!!

8.

itzzzkimmm

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

I live in the Bay Area and I am glad that this story is getting national tv coverage. It is so wrong what that officer did to that young man. I’m glad to see people out there and demonstrating.

9.

61

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

That a shame how we still do not have no rights. I cried to here this. Like damn shawn bell and i forgot the other guy that got shot 50 times through the door. Add them shot up 100 times and now this. We will never get justice that why we need to get on are job and fight back. Im tired are young people dying because these gun totting asshole do not know how to act with a gun. Take the gun from them and let see how much power they will have none. Im not mad at the people acting up out there. They be putting down in california.

10.

Tasha31

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

Yes and what was crazy is one of the videos I saw an officer was ranting and raving about a “brand new” cop car being completely vandalized. I’m like HELLO are you serious?! A man was just MURDERED in cold blood and you’re talking about a damn cop car?! To bad one of the cops wasn’t in the car at the time it was vandalized.

Also, the cop responsible for the shooting quit the day he was to be questioned. He didn’t appear to turn in his resignation; he had his attorney do it on his behalf. The cop is also in “protective custody” due to threats made on his life. Are you serious? He drew his weapon, shoots a man execution style and now HE’S in protective custody! They need to let that a$$ loose so they can get a hold of his a$$!!!

May Grant rest in peace and the family stay in our prayers!

11.

NetworKing

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

This whole thing was just completely uncalled for. This is the time camera phones and internet can possibly make a difference…though a sad situation, they can’t deny the footage of that video! It’s not just a figment of our imagination that cops do this to us black people.

And on New Years… Who would think their life would end that way. This just makes me mad when I think of it.

12.

DOB

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

WOW That video is crazy!
I understand the emotion but it got out of control.
The whole situation IS sad.

13.

miami_jay

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

I was still enjoying the fact that we are about to inagurate our first black president but was rudely awakened by this tragic story. What happened to the change? R.I.P. Oscar Grant

14.

Nothing But Love

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

Wow…. well what can i say what do they expect when they shot ole boy in the back like he was an animal in the streets.

15.

mack

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

@5,,,.the black youth is even MORE a target now that obama was elected. i could feel the racism from people the day he was elected. but we shall overcome. these kids are just letting out years of frustration because they keep getting told that their lives “ain’t worth a damn!!”. it was hard to watch this.

16.

JENNIFERLYNN

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

This whole thing makes me want to lock my babies in the house and never let them leave my sight! None of us are safe. This is so sad and pointless! How are we as a black community suppose to deal with this? What light can we see at the end of the tunnel? If the police officerS (not just the shooter but the ones who held him down) don’t get the death penalty, I don’t feel justice will be served. And protective custody?! Are you kidding me?! If a black cop killed a white girl from the suburbs, do you think he/she would be in protective custody! HELL NO! They would be getting preped for that injection! God have mercy on us all. May Your will be done. :’(

17.

LadyT

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

@15 I agree with you

the mainstream media hasn’t been talking about it but hate crimes have gone up since his election…people have had their cars and houses vandalized…people have had crosses burned on their yards….so there are some angry red necks out there….and it looks like they aint going out without a fight…

here’s a link to a reuters article talking about the increase in hate crimes and this was just 20 days after the election:

http://www.reuters.com/ar...=RSS&feedName=topNews

18.

KIDDO

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

Wow that was Rodney King all over again, this is truly SAD!
not only were there blacks out there protesting but whites also, it seems everybody is
tired of being misused by the police, I hope and pray that things get better for our kids,
but it seems like it never will, I have a 15 yr old son and I pray that nothing like this
ever happen to him, my heart goes out to the family and love ones of Mr. Oscar Grant may you Rest in Peace.

19.

princess

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

we need to read/view media sources outside of corporate media such as cnn.

http://www.racewire.org/a...fruitvale_bart_prote.html

Update on Fruitvale BART Protest

As I write this there are no less than 6 helicopters circling overhead in downtown Oakland. On the first day of the 10th year since Amadou Diallo was brutally gunned down by police in New York City, Oscar Grant was fatally shot in the back by a BART police officer, and the event was caught on video.

As I write this, rumors are flying and media is fanning the riot flames - car and trash fires, police in riot gear and tanks, restaurant windows being smashed, tear gas and rubber bullets being used. We won’t know the full picture till the night is over and the smoke clears, but the story of the successful nonviolent protest earlier this evening has been overshadowed by this angry chaos.

What is absolutely clear is that folks are furious about the murder of Oscar Grant, furious that a week has passed with no statement or acknowledgment of what happened. What is clear is that we currently don’t have community accountability over our police here in Oakland. In this bubble of progress we are hampered by the same brutal power dynamics that plague the rest of the nation. Racially driven policing that allows the use of lethal weapons in the pursuit of justice is a failed model.

What we need:

- we need police to be accountable when they participate in brutality against us. In this situation, BART police should have issued a statement acknowledging what we all saw, including an apology from Johannes Mehserle, the officer who pulled his gun and shot Grant in the back. There also needs to be a transparent process for the officers involved to be charged and held accountable for what happened. Otherwise, this is just another brick in the wall between police and the communities they are paid to protect.

- we need community justice processes that allow us to address moments of tension and unrest without the lethal presence of police. In Detroit, Ron Scott and others are working actively on Peace Zones, where the community comes together to assess community crises and mete out restorative steps for the guilty party. They are not the only ones piloting this model.

- In addition, if police hope to gain our respect and trust in their process, they need to commit to disarming themselves of lethal weapons immediately, and learn the skills of negotiation and community engagement. There is a BART board meeting TOMORROW Thursday, Jan. 8, 9 a.m., at the Kaiser Center, Third Floor - they need to hear our voices.

- We need ongoing supported focus on police brutality and accountability, even as we develop our own peace zones. It’s no longer sufficient to get furious when a civilian is killed by police, and maintain that fury until the officers are acquitted or resign. For the past 10 years it has been nearly impossible to get sustained support for this kind of work from the foundation world, so as organizers we have to sustain this work in other more community-based ways. I definitely want to shout out The Gathering, who have picked up this unpopular issue as it relates to juvenile justice, with the commitment of Harry Belafonte - they are joining the Oakland community for actions next week. I have also heard that Uhuru will be hosting a meeting tomorrow evening to discuss accountability and healing.

- we need to express our gratitude to groups like Community Justice Network for Youth (CJNY), who identified the gaping hole that exists in the non-profit and organizing community of Oakland in terms of police accountability work. CJNY stepped up in a major way for today’s nonviolent action, but they can’t maintain this effort on their own. Bay Area groups who focus their work on young people of color, this political moment needs you.

- And I know I am biased by the perspective of working at The Ruckus Society, but we need to engage in the deep training and skill development around pulling off large scale strategic direct actions. There are ways to pull together mass actions in a short time period that gain media, build the power of our positions, and help the community to see and understand the situation and how they can get involved. Over the past few months organizers from directly impacted communities - Bay Area immigrant youth and a multi-racial LGBTQ coalition - have successfully shut down the ICE headquarters building and protested Prop 8 in downtown San Francisco using affinity groups, action teams, brilliant blockading tactics, and police and media liaisons. Those actions were planned and pulled off in VERY short amounts of time, and Ruckus is definitely not the only group that does this sort of skill building. Most importantly, in terms of tonight’s events, there are also ways to de-escalate situations, even when people who aren’t directly impacted by oppression start losing their composure.

We know how to do this, and must apply that knowledge, or risk losing all credibility in terms of our demands for peace.

At this moment, as Mayor Ron Dellums meets with protesters, and the Oakland Police Department hold a long overdue press conference, we must not sink to the reactive and chaotic level of Officer Mehserle. This is our moment to unite behind a nonviolent call for transparency, accountability and justice from Oakland Police Department. We must model the community we wish to be.

20.

princess

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

the above article was written by adrienne maree brown

21.

CALICARMELHOTTIE

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

yeah i’m from the bay this shit does piss me off its wrong the cup f**cked up but mother fu***kes be getting killed in oakland all day everday and they dont want to do sh**t about that. Its ok for us to kill each other tho……. they need to be acting a fool when there loves ones lives are taked but a person on of the same race as well….

22.

LadyT

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

princess thanks for link i am always looking for new outlets of information…i go to colorofchange.org too.

23.

MsFlyAsTheSky(TheOriginalDonDiva)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

This is terribly sad…but unfortunately I think about how many blks kill each other daily in the hood everyday…and whose protesting against that…a white po comes along and does what our brothers are doing to each other everyday and our ppl now want to come together it shouldnt take bullsh*t like this for us to stand side by side…

24.

MsFlyAsTheSky(TheOriginalDonDiva)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

standing ovation@#21

25.

MsFlyAsTheSky(TheOriginalDonDiva)

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

@ #19.,…there will never be peace in a world that will always pocess evil……and the way that most blks grow up in poverty…violence and crime is all they know…so until we can help change the neighborhoods most blks are being brought up in..then we can help make the change we hope to see for our ppl….Im not shocked whatsoever a white po killed a black man and I dont know why most BLK ppl are either(PPL PUT TOO MUCH DAMN EMPHASIS ON COLOR)THE MAIN FACT IS A BROTHER KILLED ANOTHER BROTHER SENSELESSLY…..Hell I see most blks killing there own then any other race…..we still consider each other n*ggers…a name a white man gave us to degrade us….an ignorent term…and what most ppl dont realize is that words DEFINIATELY HAVE AND HOLD POWER. We have toooooo much work to do amongst ourselves FIRST…we gotta show this nation thats BLKS ARE ONE and that we strongly love each other…but too many of us are envious…ungrateful..selfish..and lazy….Most blk women dont even know how to appreciate there God given beauty. So until that dream gets reached all we can do is hope, pray and set better examples to our brothers and sisters.

26.

1Nubian Queen

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

This is just so sad to hear, I’m glad the community is coming together to stand up for this fallen young man, who now has a fatherless child. I don’t understand what the big threat to the officers were, even if Mr. Grant was a little hard to compose, there were officer holding him down by this point, so to shoot him was what icing on the cake? Then there is suppose to be some type of issue where it was said the officer was reaching for his taser and grabbed his gun instead. I’m no gun totting professional but the way you use a taser and shoot a gun are done two different ways. Not to mention the feel of a taser vs. the heaviness of a gun…I don’t know but with ol’ boy first trying to stall for time when he was to meet with BART and then just quitting says a whole lot. I’m just saying!

27.

Miss K

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

It’s murder - and possibly criminal charges for whoever held Grant down. They may get off.. if they “didn’t know the officer was going to shoot him”. The shooter is going to prison, if not - it’s definitely a consipiracy.

If he reached for his taser and grabbed the gun instead (mistake? yeah.. okay), he obviously doesn’t know how to think when faced with a chaotic situation and therefore should not be an officer for any force.

28.

Brittany

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

I was at the protest yesterday at the BART station and I feel that the only way for the demonstrations to stop is if the BART police admit that the shooting of Grant was wrong and the officer who did it faces jail time. I was always ride bart and sometimes the officers do take advantage of the power that they have and harass certain people, and i think that this was just another case of the bart police abusing their power. And instead of the officers who did this quitting he should have been fired and he does deserve to pay for what he did which for alot of people in Oakland that mean going to jail.

29.

Theworldwillendin2012

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

There is absolutely NO excuse for shooting an UNARMED man in his BACK!!! Whats their excuse? “Self Defense”?

30.

I don't accept mediocre existence

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

That was an assisination by the that “rogue officer”… almost pre-meditated…. he took out his weapon and got up and shot… within that sec of him getting up and pointing and pulling the trigger he had time to think about shooting this unarmed man that was faced down on the ground…

31.

mel

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

My people this is the begining we need to organise ourselves and form committee groups,if we poor now imagine what the credit crunch gonna do to us respect to obama and that bought this is why he was chosen to be the passifier, while white america focuses on black folks this takes your eyes of their blue collar corporate crimes, when credit crunch start to lick white americain there arse ,who they going to blame obama guantanomo was built to house the blacks when the uprising starts, when you all start to lose your jobs healthcare etc, i keep hearing bill o’reilly says he scared, whats he scared of and how all white folks should own guns because there is going to be increased lawlessness and he has his guns ready wake up america

32.

Lupe

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

See that’s the problem with you black people! You straight off the bat go to the race card! I the f#ck do you know?!

33.

leasimone

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

this is truly sad…..and my prayers are with the family…..

34.

AzzedineAliafan

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

it’s like open season on the black man, i guess the various law officers around the country say they killing each other over bull sh** anyway. It’s all needs to stop this senselse violence at the hands of the police AND at the hands of young black men!!

35.

AWJ

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

U knew they was gonna put an end to that. They don’t wanna look bad but in reality this made em look worst.

36.

caper

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

it really doesn’t look good. what black folk need to realize is that for the unteenth time we are all we got. DON’T LOOK TO PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA to bail us as black folks out. as i headed to chicago nov 4 to be present at grant park on the radio staion WGCI. i heard barack w/ ed gordon interview on just what black america can expect w/ a black president in office. i was 2hrs out of chi-town so the interview kept fading but from what i got he said if elected, black folks will have a person who will hear-see-and understand you. and he would not abandond black folks. BUT….. that he went on to ask black folks to be foot soldiers for your own causes and he advocated PERSONAL RESPONDSIBILITY amongst ourselves. cause then people who call themselves republicans which to me means racist are all ready circling the wagons on him. rep. BOEHENER of ohio is calling for a tax break for his good ol boys after they have looted the people for the last 8 yrs. these people still cry for the same ol bullshit tax breaks after they done loaded up the wagon, now barack asks for a tax cut for the middle class but the ol good ol boy is looking out for his ilk in the guise of a tax break for their haul. black folks get ready to hold on to your hat cause its getting ready to head over the cliff sooner than you think. i ain’t talk’n to you [ i'am doing alright negro's. ] only thing i can say to you is just keep livi’n. 1 trillion dollars that is what been stole and don’t have to be accounted for. just like the roman empire where the greedy in power destoryed the empire by and robbing it blind. bush and his co-horts. and some democrats are on this band wagon to ain’t that right nancy pelosi??????????. i have been through two twenty year life cycles where them red racist republicans [kkk] have pulled the same ol crap over and over they are so predictable it ain’t funny. w/ reagan=bush1 and now bush 2 in your face theivery. and this is the blacklash we blacks get. we need to turn this stuff around and not give this force of evil reason to shoot black folk as like we are their target practice. cause even sarah ‘good ol girl palin’ wouldn’t shoot a moose 51 times. i have one more CAPER in me then i’am going to retire my blogs and stand by and watch all you folks white- black- lateeno’s - hypocites head over cliff. i am not white guilt bashing there is alot of blame of all us to go around while we set back and let these folks red race republicans pull the ultimate caper and then call for a tax cut. congressiona black caucus you got hoodwinked you voted yes to this bail out and them same banks wouldn’t give the black constiuents are represent the time of day. a symbolic no should of been your vote. but you got took you been bamboozled.

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shemeka

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

It is very sad that this has happened. Our young black boys are dying by the people who suppose to be protecting us. About a month ago, this happened to a young football player in Mississippi. Mississippians were too scared to protest. I have a son in high school and I am very scared for him. I am always talking to him about how our race is becoming extinct because our black men are in jail ( some for poor choices/injustice for some) or dead. I try to talk to him about making the right choices and try not to get caught up in a situation. Every time I go to the mall, I see young black males (14-18) in handcuffs. That makes me cry everytime. If this continues to happen,what would happen to our race in ten years? Women need men to reproduce! Guess what, there will be no men. Then ,there will be no us. That is what they want. That is why they are killing so many of our young men! We use to be the second largest race in America,but now we have moved to number three.

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Have Not Thought Of A New User Name

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

I am from the Bay Area and I’m glad that this story is getting national attention (the last two officer involved shootings where the victim died didn’t get much attention, Oakland has had three separate officers kill three separate people in the last 17 months).

Side Note: I wish those who are protesting would not burn and vandalise innocent businesses and cars they shouldn’t take their frustrations out on the public, this is not the public’s fault.

39.

Jamal

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

Calm down. And take that baby picture down too please. If the the shooter was black LIKE THE MAJORITY OF CASES involving one of us (black males) being shot, nobody would have anything to say. Let’s save our energy and anger for the unreported CRISIS that is BLACK on BLACK crime.

I hear crickets…

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kimiko

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

IM FROM THE BAY (SAN FRANCISCO, OAKLAND AND SAN JOSE) AND I HAVE BEEN IN SITUATION WITH BART POLICE. THEY FEEL THERE OCCUPATIONS. THAT NEW YEARS DAY HE TOOK HIS USE OF FORCE TO A WHOLE NOTHER ALTITUDE. I’VE BEEN WATCHING THIS SINCE IT TOOK PLACE THERE ARE SO MAY CAMERA PHONE VIDEOS OF THIS LOSS, AND THE OFFICE RESIGNED. THE OAKLAND CITY DA STILL HAS NOT PRESSED CHARGES ON THE OFFICER. IT IS A SHAME THE WAY THESE LAW WORKS……..

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Have Not Thought Of A New User Name

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

@ 41.kimiko

I think BART and the City messed this up, they had no intentions on questioning the officer last week they waited for a public outcry and now they want to speak to him, but he know he might face charges so he isn’t willing to talk anymore (last week he was).

I can agree with you that BART police spend more time doing stuff that isn’t in their job discription. I ride BART at least three times a week into SF and all I see is them standing at the ticket slots making sure nobody sneek on the trains, they need to be riding the trains to curve some of the crimes that take place on them. Almost everytime I get on BART something jumping off.

I do not want to see any more sucides or sucide attemps, I hate seeing the kids fighting eachother, I hate when people play loud music like everybody want to hear that after they been at school and work all day, I could go on and on. BART police need to do the stuff they paid to do.

Sorry I rambled.

43.

b

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

this is crazy, police are suppose to protect us from the bad people in the world not retain us, lay us face down helpless and shoot us in the back. my prayers go out to the family. the officer should be tried as if it were you or me, accident or not this young man lost his life and someone should pay badge or not he should go to jail just like the rest of us would had it been us…

44.

jashunta

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

#39 you are so right. Black on black crime is more common than white on black crime but look what gets national attention, Oscar Grant whom I’m going to assume was no saint. His family claims he had a troubled past so my imagination runs wild with assumptions. I’m sure he fit the typical profile of a young black male mixed with the wrong crowd which I’m sure did not end with the birth of his daughter. I shouldn’t bother mentioning what I think of him and similar young males who barely contribute anything positive to society. He was bad mouthing the police officer and being uncooperative and unfortunately had his life cut short by a most likely racist cop who should pay the ultimate price for what he did. Even though I’m sure I would not have approved of this young man’s life, I believe he could have changed and probably did some great things. I don’t believe he changed his ways like his family said because if he did he might have been here today. Instead he was handcuffed for getting in some mischief( still making assumptions, I don’t know the entire story).

I am appalled at that video clip. Do they really think jumping up and down on police vehicles, smashing windows, and setting fire to people’s vehicles will accomplish anything? The only thing those idiots are getting is a one way ticket to jail. They might even get shot for being so violent and dangerous! Think people. The officer should be in jail for murder but no one is going to make a positive difference by acting like a 2 year old with a temper. Please act civilized folks. I’m glad I don’t live over there. I would hate to have my car vandalized by one of those pathetic nimrods who would consider that protesting. Leave other people’s property out of it! If you want to trash some place trash your own place! Set YOUR house and car on FIRE. What a pathetic attempt at ugh! May peace be with you….

45.

b

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

please black people dont pull the race card, this is bigger than the color of our skin this has to do with a human, a father, son, brother, nephew and or cousin… someone who did not deserve to die like that point blank. had he been a white, hispanic or any other race it would still mean the same death by the hands of our protectors. dont always put racism in it b/c the video i saw of the protestors were of all races just standing to support the family and to show this was not right and im proud of that b/c if we stand for nothing we fall for anything…. as humans one nation under god with justice for all yes that means black, white, hispanic etc

it hit home to all of us millions of miles away so protest on stand for our rights and leave the color of our skin out of it

46.

Salty

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

Why do I keep seeing comments about black on black crime like it’s some how parallel to a public service worker, who is supposed to help ensue justice, decides that he’s gonna abuse his power and take an innocent man’s life. If oscar was asian, red, blue, indian, or green, his life that was so senselessy and abruptly taken away is cause worthy to start a riot, be angry and upset and most importantly HAVE SYMPATHY over. It wouldn’t be a ‘calm down’ or ‘don’t get so angry over this incident’ if oscar happened to be your son, your, brother, your father, your friend…

47.

Have Not Thought Of A New User Name

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

I don’t know what happened to my last post, but my point was they let anybody on the Oakland Police and BART Police. I’ve seen the BART police exam ( I know people who took the test) they don’t take the highest scores they just take a passing score (70% you can guess and get that). Then I read what you have to do once you pass the test part, there is no real/intence police training at least it wasn’t the last time I read the job discription.

I always thought that BART police where real officers assigned to the BART, but I later found out that they wern’t. Oakland will let anybody on their Police force and this was happens. Unqualified people with extremely poor jundgement leading to tragedy.

48.

Shaun

Thursday, January 8, 2009 /

*Clapping* @ 39. You took the words right out of my mouth…….

49.

Miss K

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

Agreeing with #46..

Speaking for myself (and perhaps others), this isn’t about a white man killing a black man. It’s about an officer senselessly killing a civilian.

If it were a black officer who killed a white man, my response would be the same. The color issue is nonexistent.

50.

Kellz

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

To salty… the reason you keep seeing comments about black on black crime is to point out the hypocrisy who ranting about cops targeting blacks BY black ppl. How the hell do you expect ppl outside your ethnicity to respect you if your own kind is out to poison and kill you??? Sweetie, RESPECT STARTS AT HOME and until I see some protests of black ppl committing crimes against another of a national and SERIOUS level, I will continue to compare just like the other ppl did. I digress; what that cop did is wrong… dead wrong. On the other hand, what the hell do you think breaking ish is going to do??? NOTHING. Not a damn thing! Also, what the hell do you think generalizing and stereotyping cops is going to do? NOT A DAMN THING! Partial blame goes on people spreading the ignorant idea that ALL cops are out to get minorities when that isn’t even true! Don’t you realize that stuff causes stigma and tension??? All that negative energy you are putting out, it’s bound to come back! I think everyone needs to take a breather and re-evaluate things. If certain cops (NOT ALL) don’t know how to act… arrest them and charge them. If they get off, do a PEACEFUL protest to spotlight the injustice and PRAY it gets noticed. If it doesn’t, too bad. You aren’t God so you can’t judge and behave in response to your judgement. Life is NOT FAIR so learn to deal with it and TRY really hard to play it the best you can and that SHOULD NOT include violence or stigmatizing others.

51.

Kellz

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

Oh and while on the topic, can we please post about the video of two cops beating (supposedly but I think they really are) down a dude in custody? It’s on youtube and was featured on ABC’s (channel 7) 11pm news last night in the DMV area.

52.

F*@#! DA O.P.D.

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

NOW I’M FROM THE BAYAREA AND I CAN TELL YOU STAIGHT UP—OAKLAND AUTHORITY WHETHER IT’S THE Bart Police or the Oakland Police Department(Infamous O.P.D.that beat up 2PAC for j walking)THEY’RE ALL DIRTY CROOKS!!! THEY COVER UP FOR EACH OTHER AND THEY DON’T CARE.I’M SO SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO THAT YOUNG MAN BUT THE OFFICER WILL REEP WHAT HE SOW AND JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.

53.

mel

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

Some of you mention black on black crime answer this for me how are the drugs and guns infiltrated in to mainly black communities? in this day and age that officer should have exercised restraint will he be charged i doubt it ,ask yourself why not ?why is it one law for them and one law for us how is this a deterrent for our youths when there is never ever any justice.

54.

sigh

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

Sad.

I think people bring up the black on black crimes because those incidents don’t get as much media coverage, as opposed, to the “racially motivated” crimes. I just don’t know anymore.

The end is definitely near.

55.

sigh

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

Those papers on their backs, “Don’t shoot”, were genius!

56.

JUDAH

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

I can’t wait until the Russians and Iranians launch those nukes on this place and burn you people up, lol.

57.

JUDAH

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

To much confusion going on here. It’s time for the Most High to cleanse the minds and the spirits of the people and to cleanse the earth of the filth known as the modern American. Any fool who believes that peaceful protest changes things needs the same treatment that Oscar Grant received. They rolled out these bohemian young whites and these undercover CIA agents to whitenize the protests to take the racial aspect away from the precedings, as usual. Black people will fall for it again. The police can afford to stand back and allow negroes to throw their tantrums because that is all a child can do. Black people think like children, the black man in particular thinks like an infant, and they receive the treatment of infants. Those n*ggers cannot protest. All they can do is destroy because they’ve already been spiritually destroyed. They certainly cannot sit or stand across from the white man and tell them who they are, because balck people don’t know who they, themselves are. Insanity is a person who reacts the same way to the same scenario and expects a different result. Black people have been throwing tantrums and confronting stormtroopers for 50 years. The sh*t doesn’t work, in history it has never worked, and it never will work. You are either in power or you are not. Blacks have swallowed down this bullsh*t about equality and a white god that “loves everybody”, retaught and regurgitated it to their children, and this is the result.

58.

JUDAH

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

With these idiotic “Don’t Shoot” signs. Those two dykes could give a damn. They just want to be seen and call attention to themselves and probably “Proposition 8″.

59.

sigh

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@ Judah

C’mon now! Times are already depressing enough..

60.

ssister

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

for anyone to act as if this tragedy is no big deal b/c we have alot of black on black murders, to me you are just as stupid as the police officer that had the nerve to shoot another human being ( and killed him) that obviously posed no threat. To make the situation even sader the murdering cop did it in front God knows how many witnesses as if he is untouchable . I’m not a violent person but I do believe we have a every right to be pissed off. God forbid one of our male loved ones become next.

61.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

It makes me sick to my stomach to hear these Black store owners condemning the protest just because they’ve had a few windows busted out on their storefront. Negroes please, don’t you have insurance? A man has lost his life, a mother a son, a child a father and all you care about is a f*cking building. I urge the people of San Francisco to continue to wreak havoc on the city. There is nothing wrong with rioting and busting out a few windows and torching houses. We have to let these crackers know that we have relieved them of their authority. We are taking matters into our own hands because the Black man cannot get justice in the courts.

Riot is the voice of the unheard.

62.

JUDAH

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Dukesman

When has that ever worked?

63.

JUDAH

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Sigh

I don’t get depressed sis, so I don’t know what you’re referring to. I get indignant. Either black people must make a commitment to do something that will work; which they won’t do because of various reasons, or be quiet, recede back into the matrix, and try to do things that will not offend master like the majority of these slaves do.

64.

Mr. West Coast!

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

Enough Yall…

We kill each other every day in Atlanta, Oakland, Detroit, New Orleans, Houston, LA, etc… and no one is marching on behalf of Black on Black crime! When Cop’s killing black men becomes the #1 death for black men under the age of 25, then I’ll start marching!

65.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Kellz

Why don’t you go back to cave from which you came? I hate it when non-blacks try to tell Black people how they should and should not feel. Listen, you are obviously not Black (if you are, then God help you) so you do not share the same sensitivities as a Black person. If a white man had shot and killed a Jew, it would have been just as bad but I would not show any interest in it because frankly, my interest lies with Black people. A few years ago in NY a Hasidic Jew was blocking traffic and a patrol car was responding to an emergency. They must have yelled at him and roughed him up a few times. The Jewish community did not like that one of their own was “talked down to” by the cops. They came out in full force and blocked the street. No one batted an eye or said the Jews were over-reacting. Now a Black man was executed in broad daylight and WE are taking things too far? We should point fingers at ourselves and say “yes we deserved to be killed by the police?” Are you kidding me? Hell no! It is critical for white people to know that the days of singing “we shall overcome” are days of the pass. We are a different breed. We are not handcuff by the non-violent, love your enemy approach. We do not pray for our enemy. We pray that God kill him, or that God will help us kill him.

66.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Kellz

Why don’t you go back to cave from which you came? I hate it when non-black people try to tell Black people how they should and should not feel. Listen, you are obviously not Black (if you are, then God help you) so you do not share the same sensitivities as a Black person. If a white man had shot and killed a Jew, it would have been just as bad but I would not show any interest in it because frankly, my interest lies with Black people. A few years ago in NY a Hasidic Jew was blocking traffic and a patrol car was responding to an emergency. They must have yelled at him and roughed him up a few times. The Jewish community did not like that one of their own was “talked down to” by the cops. They came out in full force and blocked the street. No one batted an eye or said the Jews were over-reacting. Now a Black man was executed in broad daylight and WE are taking things too far? We should point fingers at ourselves and say “yes we deserved to be killed by the police?” Are you kidding me? Hell no! It is critical for white people to know that the days of singing “we shall overcome” are days of the pass. We are a different breed. We are not handcuff by the non-violent, love your enemy approach. We do not pray for our enemy. We pray that God kill him, or that God will help us kill him.

67.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

CL is buggin. It’s double posting

68.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Judas

It hasn’t worked yet, but just like Pharaoh, God has hardened the white man’s heart, make him bitter, angry, indignant (which ever wod you want to use). Like Pharaoh, the white man is ignoring the signs; and like Pharaoh it will result in the white man’s destruction.

69.

sigh

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@ Judah

I was referring to your comment, “…can’t wait until the Russians and Iranians launch those nukes on this place and burn you people up, lol.”

70.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Judah

I meant to write Judah..my bad

71.

BAY_AREA_GURL

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

WHAT THE COP WAS DID WAS WRONG I AGREE WITH THAT BUT…….
IF YOU LIVE IN THE BAY ITS OFF THE CHAINS I GUESS BLACK ON BLACK CRIME IS OK CAUSE YOU DONT GET NOT ONE MARCH FOR Sh$T LIKE THIS ….
http://www.sfgate.com/maps/oaklandhomicides/
OR SHI### LIKE THIS
http://oaklandmm.blogspot.com/2007/12/118.html

WE NEED TO START STANDING UP FOR OUR OWN RACE SO WE CAN COME TOGETHER AS ONE AND SHOW LOVE NOT HATE

72.

Oakland, Ca Native

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

I have lived in Oakland All my life and I use the BART system occasionally to get around. And now when the train passes the FRUITVALE Station my heart is stricken with great sadness. I can’t help but look at the platform and think that a organization that was established to “protect” & serve the community took a young mans life. It’s been reported that he was really getting his life together and was an active member of his local church. I just want to express my Condolences to his family and friends and that I lift them in prayer!

73.

Irene

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

This my first time hearing about this. This is crazy, what is this world coming too when cops are shooting innocent people. I just don’t get it. I see no reason for it. I really hope that they start dealing with these police when they do kill or injure innocent people. They need to put through the same thing as murders that aren’t cops. Jail time, or life in prision. Cause it just doesn’t make any sense. SMH @ some of the cops….

74.

JUDAH

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@Sigh

Well sis, what do you want me to say? I can only say what I feel. When you read the comments concerning this issue, they are all over the place. All over the damn spectrum. Black people have been broken down to a level of infancy. This is not an issue that can be solved or resolved by appealing to the same government that sponsors the oppression. It certainly will not be resolved as long as the black man cannot think.

@Dukesman

Old habits die hard, lol. I agree that the so-called white man has been hardened just like pharoah and the scriptures speak on that, but if black people are going to take a violent route, then be violent with a purpose. You don’t burn your own, burn theirs. Don’t walk up in a cop’s face. Kill the cop. If you’re going to be carnal, go all out with your carnality. Now on the other hand, if you want to address it the right way, that is a whole other matter. You fight to win, not to get the person you’re fighting against to treat you “equal”.

75.

dukesman2000

Friday, January 9, 2009 /

@ Judah..

Blacks and whites are NOT equal. Is satan equal to God? Absolutely not! Blacks are the superior race and this is not propaganda. When the white man speaks as if he is superior, that is propaganda. Nowhere in history, whether the history he purports or the real history, are there scientific evidence that can support his claim. The white man is only superior in deity, savagery, cannibalism, rape, murder, disease, incest, bestiality, and pedophiliac activities, because that’s all they know.

Yes, they are the true Sodomites…

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