NEWS ROUNDUP: OAKLAND BART POLICE OFFICER KILLS YOUNG MAN / FORMER KILPATRICK AIDE SENTENCED / ‘09 = TOTAL DECLINE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009
Oscar J. Grant III, 22, was shot in the back and killed by 27-year-old Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) police officer Johannes Mehserle early on New Year’s Day.
John L. Burris, long-time civil rights attorney who is representing Grant’s family, called the death “the worst I’ve ever seen in a shooting case” and said that it “cries out for criminal prosecution.” The family filed a $25-million wrongful death claim against the agency Tuesday.
Graphic video of Grant’s death shows Mehserle shooting the unarmed Grant in the back as he lay face down while other officers restrained him.
Just a day later, a police officer in Bellaire, Texas, shot Robert Tolan, the 23-year-old son of World Series Champion Bobby Tolan outside of their home.
Two young, black, unarmed men shot by those who are supposed to serve and protect. What are we going to do about this?
FORMER KILPATRICK AIDE SENTENCED
On Tuesday, Christine Beatty, former chief of staff for former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, reported to jail for obstruction of justice stemming from their text-messaging sex scandal case. She will serve 120 days behind bars.
In September, Kilpatrick resigned as mayor and pleaded guilty to two felony obstruction of justice charges stemming from his efforts to cover up his relationship with Beatty. He is currently serving his sentence in the Wayne County jail.
2009 TO BE YEAR OF TOTAL DECLINE
According to American investor and financial commentator Jim Rogers, the American economy in 2009 will probably be worse than World War II. Check out his recent interview with Bloomberg Television.
What are your thoughts on the economy?









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1.
Money
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I pray it doesnt get that bad or Im moving…
2.
Mike J.
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
We ALL need to take a stand for something and take action regarding this issue of police killing our brothers… Something has to be done about this, we can no longer just sit back and watch and hope for something to be done but stand up and take action!!
3.
haitian diva
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA
4.
Mike J.
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
As for the economy, it’s definitely going to get WORSE before it gets better so we all must be prepared. Stop spending and trying to keep up with the next person but rather save for hard times.
5.
Vicky
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
AGH!!! Can’t watch video ’til I get off from work!
6.
Vicky
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Lord, have mercy on this family for they need You now more than ever before.
Amen
7.
Vicky
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Something told me Kilpatrick was gonna get in office and act a clown. That’s a darn shame.
8.
Greg
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I saw that video about the guy getting shot by the police yesterday. Its so sad that the murderous asshole probably wont see the inside of a jail cell for what he did to that man. The man was unarmed and laying on his stomach what threat did he pose? And I’m supposed to be afraid of terrorists? Naw police are the real terrorists.
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Jenny J
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is a shame, and it breaks my heart. I hope everyone gets what they deserve. This just isnt right!
10.
myopia
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I cannot watch the video of the young man being shot in the back. It’s hard enough for me just hearing about it.
11.
Leah
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
That was so sad to watch. I am so mad that he had to die this way. I just feel like that could be any man of color be it being my father, brother or cousin. Why must they disregard our lives as less then theirs? I was feeling so good about the country and now they go and do this. I guess they wanna show us they still run everything but I know that GOD is in control. My prayers to the family and I pray to that Gods Will will be done.
12.
Aspell
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
what can we do really?at least now? Cops will always be racists bastards who have lawyers and judges on their side. In their eyes we are black ppl who only get what we deserve, we are worth less then the bullet it takes to kill us. White ppl have been a historically evil group, first killing and enslaving our Indian brothers, then turning to us when they were no longer useful. The whole time using the bible to justify their actions.
And they are glorified and idolized everyday
Its in their blood, the evil that is.
The only thing we can do is force their hand with education and push our way to their positions and look out for each other.
For they will never look out for us.
13.
Knuck
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
These MURDERS are absolutely ridiculous! Using a taser is bad enough, but shooting some1 while they are face down? DISGUSTING. And they need to rot.
14.
You Ain't Worth It If I Gotta Camouflage!!!!
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is nothing new, it happens all the time. These law enforcement officers (use that term lightly) need to be punished, do some hard time or something. If it’s happening continuously then obviously the punishments are not harsh enough. Give them jail time in general population and I guarantee that the others will take more caution and don’t just be running around cities gun happy.
The police are the most crooked mofos ever!!!!!!!!!!
15.
bassackwards
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Unfortunately Obama has walked into a hornets nest concerning the economy (and others) hopefully he will employ the right individuals to help get the USA out of this slump, we cannot just rely on the government, we all must do our part.
16.
trini
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I am not being insensitive, but honestly guys, things like black people getting killed happens everyday. what is more, I find it very appalling that you report on something only when it has to do with white people killing black men. black men kill themselves in alarmingly higher numbers. do a report on that. on top of that, why not put the focus on the droves of black women who also fall victim to dangerous black men. this posting is tragic, but there should be focus on the havoc that black males (because lets be honest black women are not shooting each other up in record numbers) wreak on the Black community (if there even is a black community left to call it that).
17.
TASHA31
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
OMG, this was so sad and disturbing to watch at the same time. I can only imagine what this family is going through and to be able to actually see the video that took your child’s life has to be heart wrenching. And by the reaction of the cop after he shot him just says it all. I hope they put his a$$ under the jail and throw away the key but that’s wishful thinking. I’m sure they’ll find some kind of way to weasel themselves out of it. THEY always do!!! My heart goes out to this family and I’m sure the Attorney they have working for them will do all he can to see that justice is served. I believe this is the same Attorney who handled the Rodney King issue.
18.
Happiness is a Choice...Be The Best YOU There Is...
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
That is so sad and not that any amount of money will bring him back but I hope the family is monitarily compensated for the assassination. Because if he was face down and unarmed it’s more then “wrongful death” in my opinion.
19.
MsFlyAsTheSky(TheOriginalDonDiva)
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Im not surprised nor am i shocked. But whats really new CL??? Our young brothers brag about killin each other daily…rap music…..tv….the streets…the main ppl that are killin our brothers is our brothers…so B4 WE CAN get the justice system to stop killin our brothers we gotta first get our brothers to stop pointlessly killin and destroying each other, daily. ITS sad but what can we do, Its takes something like this to make people realize our brothers are dying senselessly??? Im a sister that is for rasing our young black men into REAL STRONG FEARLESS SUCCESSFUL WISE MEN so that we can have more BLACKS IN UNIFORMS INSTEAD OF GANGSTA BLING BLING FOOLISH GEAR or PRISION GEAR…we need more BLK JUDGES, POLICTICIANS, POLICE OFFICERS ETC ETC. Because this world is truly ugly and mostly in AMERICA the main ones callin the shots and gainin all the power are white people. The only real change that will come, is when this world is officially over. Or, when our ppl finnally realize the in order to REALLY survive we gotta stick together….and the complection of our skin is beneath that importance.
20.
queen tee
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
i hope that fake ass cop rot!!! that was wrong and trust me he will pay for that either with his LIFE or JAIl TIME!! You better believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21.
M.LOVE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is so outrageous!!! It was unnecessary!! That officer must be dealt with! Thank GOD folks around had enough sense to capture the happening and the courage to forward the video! To the officer…..how unfortunate AND justified would it be for someone to pin him down on the floor and fatally shoot him in the back…or better yet his child or father.
22.
Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@ Trini
black women may be shooting each other up, but black women are now more violent than ever whether it be towards each other or their boyfriends or children and often times they are the instigators or main reason why black males are killing off each other…something is very wrong in the black community. We need to do better. We need the spirit of black folks in those times where things were supposedly “separate but equal” they most often stuck together because their life depended on it…Well even here today people our life and especiallly the life of our children are depending on it.
23.
Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
typo…”may NOT be”
24.
Juicy SuperStar
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is very sad. Yes Black Men do kill each other but when you become an armed officer you are held in higher regard and to a higher standard of trust. How can you tell children not to commit crimes when Officers are out commiting crimes. This is sad and horrible.
I hope our economy gets better. My stocks are making money so I hope it keeps going up.
25.
dukesman2000
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
It’s been open season on the Black man. Amadou Diallo, Timothy Stansbury, Sean Bell, Oscar J. Grant III and countless other Black men who have fallen victims to this pseudo-KKK posse known as the police force. I feel like our youths are sitting ducks only waiting to be murdered by the police whenever these racist bastards feel the itch to see the blood of a n*gger’s flowing in the streets. Rev. Al Sharpton, God bless his souls, but now is not the time to be marching and preaching. People, do not fool yourselves, there is only one way to stop this – violence begets violence and evil only respects greater evil. America will not think twice about going to war and turning countries in virtual parking lots if it believes its country or interests around the world are being threatened. So how in the world could America look at a black man today and expect him to remain calm when he is being targeted and murdered by these racist cops? If there is going to be a funeral processing for you, your son, husband, nephew, cousin or friend; let there be a funeral procession at the police headquarters. At whatever cost, Black people’s biggest cause is to stop the Black man’s blood from spilling. What’s the Black man’s life worth? If you haven’t figured it out as yet – NOTHING! How many times have we seen a cop kill a Black man and he is put on “paid leave” or “administrative duties?” You might say I am an extremist - that is fine with me. The Black man here in America is in an extremely bad condition. You show me a black man who isn’t an extremist and I’ll show you one who needs to have his head checked.
26.
Aspell
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@CUBLKTIGRESS
So black women are behind the violence because they are “instigators” LMAO!! ur off. black women are guilty of having too many damn babies and being video hoes and unprotected sex but violence? Puh-lease.
27.
JUJU
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@cublktigress
come on now violent? get you facts together 98% of crimes in the black community are done by black men (MOST SENSELESS)
28.
Juicy SuperStar
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
An Officer shots and unarmed man in the back and somehow this turns into an argument about blk on blk violence. Has nothing to do with this case.
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Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@ Aspell
Often times those black males come from black mothers who are violent themselves…take that and couple it with a single parent home you get these misguided youths who dont give a crap about anything or anyone….Violence does not necessarily mean killing somebody, violence is action whether it be just fighting, going off and getting all up in peoples face, throwing things at people please all you have to do is turn on the tv on some show especially reality tv you see that behavior in the black women all the time. Do you read the news? (I do mean more than local)…Do you go outside? Have you seen the dvds with the ghetto fights…hell check youtube, and on the real it’s not even limited to just black females. Let’s not play ignorant.
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Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@ juju
where’s proof of that stat? they may be doing the killing, but like I said in post 29, that’s not the only form of violence. Just because one form is not as severe does not make it any better.
31.
the_one
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
To answer the question I am going to pray that God protects our young black men and for those who have committed these crimes be brough to justice. We need to have a call to action, we need to stop this madness. What are we to do, how many marches do we have organize and law sutis must be filed. When will they train these officers that a black man doesn’t equal criminal or target.
32.
MissNee
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Oakland Bart Police?
33.
SHAY
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
its so sad, people so sad. all we can do is pray. don’t doubt god, he knows what he’s doing and he has a plan. “I’ve gone through the fire, and I’ve been through the flood, I’ve been broken, into pieces, seen lightning flash, from above, but throug it all, I remember, that he loves me, and he cares, and he’ll never, put more on me, than I can bear…no he’ll never, put more on me, than i can bear.”
34.
NativeNYker
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is so sad!
xo
Rants, Thoughts & Merde
http://rantsthoughtsmerde...hudson-bare-shoulder.html
35.
JUJU
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@cublktigress
if killing someone is not violent what is it! I know you probably got that your lil info from some BS STATS!(dont believe everything you read) what im saying is hardcore evidence with the numbers behind it regarding blackmen not some study etc
36.
London speaks
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is OUTRAGE!
Everyday my people are dying. Black men need to LOVE and APPRICATE black woman and Black woman need to comfort and sympathise with our men so we can procreate and replenish the precious lives that are being lost and thus preserve our race and grow.
We neeed to educate ourselves and free ourselves from mental slavery so we can build our community once again and stick together.
We are losing our culture and heritage and we need to regain it people, we need to regain it! do not let our ancestors die for nothing or these racist pigs get the better of us. Stay strong and support each other. One love.
37.
JUJU
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
oh and on the reality tv thing that mess is scripted to bring in ratings…
38.
Brittany
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Big up to the CL for posting about the bart shooting because Im from Oakland and this Bart station is right by house and its sad how the police officer who did this might get away with it and never see the inside of the jail. And the guy who was killed was unarmed and not a threat to the bart officers.
And its also horrible how police could shoot someone outside their own home…I dont know what that situation was but i doubt that using a gun was the only way to go about solving it.
39.
Nadia
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@MissNee BART is the subway system in the San Francisco Bay Area
Protest the BART Police Murder of Oscar Grant today, Jan. 7th from 3-7pm @ Fruitvale BART in Oakland
40.
T.Lynn
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
He did that shit because officers face no consequences what-so-ever for those types of incidents. It seems to me the people have the opportunity to charge him with flat out murder. But I wouldn’t be suprised if he working next week
41.
JUDAH
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I can tell that “CUBLKTIGRESS” is telling the truth because the sea monsters are trying to attack her, lol. I read the reponses to your post before I even read your post and I knew you had to be speaking the truth because the black woman hates to be taken to task for anything. Here’s a story on a black man being shot to death, face down, while handcuffed and the only thing that many of these black women can conjure up in their peabrains is how much they hate the black man. Then when I comment on that, I’m “hateful”, lmao. These are the same females shaking their half-naked behinds in some club to a song that also promotes the violence that they claim to despise. The real problem is that the young black male is imbued with images of white superiority and black female worship from their youth upward. They are taught to view other black men as 1) competition 2) a threat 3) the enemy. Those views are encouraged by many, not all sisters, that force them into these churches and teach them that Christ, the Most High, and the angels were all caucasian, but “color doesn’t matter”, lol (which is actually code for “coloreds” do not matter). Then you wait until the young black man, who’s mind you have perverted from infancy is 13 years old and up, violent as hell, and has no respect for anything but the gun to try to analyze his mindset and start another bullsh*t “program”. The problem starts from the womb, so the solution starts from the womb.
The black man needs to get a greater unerstanding, or just a basic understanding, of who his enemies are. That is how ORDER is restored. Unfortunately, you cannot put new wine in old bottles and you cannt teach 25 year old black men how to act correctly when their minds have been perverted from childhood in this perverse land.
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Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@ juju I said killing is not the only form of violence..please read….and I did not have any stats listed…please read again….and I did not say that black men don’t commit a lot of crimes (you should definitely thoroughly read) I’m just sayin you can’t turn a blind eye as to how the acts of violence has increased among black females and alot of that you don’t hear about on national news (do some research please)..the number of black women in jail has increased (you can look that up to) ..No one should believe everything you read or see on the news as a form of statistics because if you knew anything about the media it’s romanticized and skewed to generate a response like you always hear about white on black crimes but never the black on white (there’s a whole website dedicated to that and it’s just as horrendous and appalling) and you hardly ever hear about the black girl or black woman that’s missing because it will not generate that response and ratings that they are looking for like the white woman or child…
If you want to know what violence means hear you go:
1. Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence.
2. The act or an instance of violent action or behavior.
3. Intensity or severity, as in natural phenomena; untamed force: the violence of a tornado.
4. Abusive or unjust exercise of power.
5. Abuse or injury to meaning, content, or intent: do violence to a text.
Vehemence of feeling or expression; fervor.
but that’s neither hear nor there….God bless to both of these families
43.
Soul Cookbook
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
“Two young, black, unarmed men shot by those who are supposed to serve and protect. What are we going to do about this?”
Not a damn thing. Well, black WOMEN will be on the front lines marching and crying and weeping and black men will be…
Oh wait. They’re busy crying on the internet about black women STEALING black manhood and raising thugs and gangsters. And other such nonsense.
Whatever, I am over it. The only black men that get sympathy from me are the ones I know personally like my father and my husband. I am saddened that two people lost their lives, but like someone else said we seem to only cry “foul” when black men are victims of white racists but are silent when black WOMEN are victims of black male racists.
For every police shooting of an unarmed black man, there are at least a dozen black women facing physical violence, intimidation and dehuminization in the so-called black community. But where is the outrage then? Why is it not OK to call black male predators “disgusting” and “hope they rot in hell”.
This double standard is literally killing black women and children all to protect the black man’s ego? Whatever.
44.
MissNee
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@ Nadia
I know. I live in Oakland. In the title it says Oakland Bart Police and there is no such thing. It’s either Oakland PD or BartPd
45.
Miss. Tiandez Jones
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I am deeply outraged by these recent murders…ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, IT HAS BEEN ENOUGH!
…and they wonder why we don’t trust the cops. So corrupt. I pray that there is some justice out there and that the feds don’t try to cover this ish up too.
46.
The Truth
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
What a black man being killed by a cop? What’s new here? It’s a shame.
The economy: Well we should’ve known that was going to happen. America reminds me of a fat man, who stole other people(the world) food, and placed on his table. He would go to different places stealing to put their food on his table; and when he gets back to his city(US citizens); he would bring them different tropical foods. The thing is he would just give them(US citizens), the crumbs he didn’t want, as to not get them rebellion against him.
He sits at the table of variety of things he stole, and eat and eat and eat until one day he get a bad case of indigestion, and finally die from gluttony. On top of that he wanted everyone to come and cure him.
God gives a man enough rope to hang himself.
Over 200 years ago: You came here and killed the “Native Americans” never apologized, and never gave them back the land and money you stoled. Check
Brought Africans here to build America; after they were done, you decided to try to kill them off. Fabricate lies after lies to make them out to be beasts. Check
Created diseases of local and national use. Check
Still going around the world expoiting others, causing wars, and hatred. Check
Americans: Still as brain washed as ever. Terrorist are after us, lol! Check
African-Americans still suffer from brain washing, they still believe that whitey includes him in his plans. Check
California, Arizona, Mexico, Texas and southern Colorado, Florida belong to Mexico; so how are the Mexicans illegals? Even if you stole my car for five years and drove around in it, it still doesn’t make it your car. Got my point?
So, The Thieves of American and your decendents now. Do you expect God to continue your acts against nations? Do you expect to continue to get fat and rich stealing from others?
I mean come on people who want to understand. America is well over due for a melt down. Never in history has God allow one nation to stay on top; especially when they are evil and as evil as America.
God Bless America? for what? Don’t be crazy! especially as a black person. Do you think God should only bless America? How selfish is that prayer. Do you only pray God bless you and your family and forget about others? Don’t insult God with that stupid, selfish prayer. Everytime I see or hear a black person in America, say “God, bless America” I’m always amused. Being a people who are oppressed; how can you make such a selfish prayer? Is America the only one worthy of a prayer for blessing?
God Bless the World!!!!!
47.
GOLDEN
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is truly sad.
I hope that justice is served in that case, and that this draws NATIONAL attention. How can you shoot someone who is lying flat on their back unarmed? The jury should truly see the horror and injustice in this case. Please please let something be done about this. This could be my brother, b/f, friend, just anybody. And it is a shame that people are up in here arguing back and forth when this case is much more than that. Why are we turning on one another? Focus on causing an outcry about this situation.
Don’t you get it? That’s what the cops want us to do!! They want us to fight amongst ourselves, without FIGHTING THEM. There is a MURDERER out there on the police force, and that’s what we should focus on. Getting justice and causing an outcry for this young man who was gunned down for no reason at all. It could have been avoided but he was just shot in the back, IN THE BACK. WHILE ON THE FLOOR. This is too much for anyone to bare. But please just focus on the real situation at hand. This is truly horrible and I hope justice will be served.
Blessing to the family. May God be with you.
48.
Ami
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is a catastrophe. We are scared as hell as a race of people to ruffle the white man’s feathers. Because they have taught us that living like a coward and dying like a bi*ch is the best thing out. All in hopes of achieving the fallacy of the “American Dream”.
Black people are so darn scary when things like this happens they say “Well, what about all the black on black crime?” What!!?? You got to be effin kidding me!!! That shows you right there how heartless we are as a people, and I mean cowardly lion heartless.
I agree that, marching has it time and place. Other times, bloodshed and DEATH is the only way people get the picture. This has happened for thousands of years. With all due respect, Martin Luther King, Ghandi, Al Sharpton, etc, can not change that dynamic.
I know someone that has racist police in their city and they unjustifiably shoot black men and you know what? Black people retaliate and shoot the cops! I believe that is the only way the will think twice about killing our people. The uncertainty of DEATH has to be looming over there heads, not the threat of administrative leave of loosing their jobs. Come on, who would really take that serious… Would you?
49.
Vash
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I agree with Judah and Cublktigress, we have too many issues going on with ourselves that need to be addressed. When we resolve those issues then we can have a battle with the white man.
50.
ThaTruth
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
I hope they get every single penny of the 25 million, although it may not heal their total loss.
Why? and what the hell were the other officers just looking? He could have shot more
51.
JUJU
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
CUBLK
I understand killing is not the only form of violence but I feel taking someone life tops the list! And almost all the violent crimes you named men tops the list.but you have your opinion and I have mine
52.
Vicky
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
CAN THEY PLEASE TAKE THAT VIDEO OFF THE NET?!?!
I KNOW HIS FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS ARE QUITE UPSET ABOUT THIS INCIDENT AND MAYBE ABRUPTLY VIEWING IT ON TV WILL HURT DEEPLY.
53.
JUDAH
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Nothing should be taken off the net. Our people need to see what the devil does when he thinks no one is watching (Psalms 10:8-11). If it offends you, don’t click on it.
54.
THERE IS A JAY-Z/RIHANNA S*X TAPE IN EXISTENCE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
The next time a brother is considering killing another brother he should think twice and instead turn around and shoot a white cop instead. I am serious. I truly believe that murdering black men makes these white cracker cops’ dicks get hard. I really think it’s time for war. Black-on-black murdering needs to stop and blacks need to begin murdering white cops instead.
55.
TooMuch
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Hey everyone, stop fighthing. You all are right in your own way. I agree with CUBLK
and JUJU, I think murder is the worst; but you usually start off with some other type of violent behavior before you kill somebody
We have this same situation going on as we type in New Orleans. Yes we are the murder capital of the U.S. and the cops here have a right to be extra cautious. But we had 7 cops shoot 14 rounds into a 23 year old black guys back (they said he shot 1st) 7 cops!!!!
Its crazy everywhere, Blacks are dying everyday!! WE MUST DO BETTER!!
This starts with us.
56.
naenae
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
i live in oakland and i went by the place where he got shot. It was extremely sad because i have never seen anything like it before.
57.
dukesman2000
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Hey Judah,
This is off topic but I have to respond to your comment to me in a previous post.
You are wrong again. Constantine invented the Catholic Church. While Christianity actually existed before Constantine, it was actually a minor sect of Judaism. Several of the European belief systems were combined with the belief of the Jewish people who had considered Jesus to be their Rabbi. Jesus Christ of Nazareth birthed Christianity in the area of Jerusalem. You must remember that Constantine did not actually become a Christian until he was an old man on his death bed. That was when he was baptized and professed that Jesus is Lord. During his life he did not surrender to Christ. He simply changed the law so that it was no longer illegal to be Christian. Which was quite prudent of him given that Christianity was steadily growing and soon he might have been fed to the lions.
Let’s repsect this thread and stick to the topic at hand. Thanks….
58.
LikeIWasSayin
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
MARCHiNG–PROTESTiNG–AND SCREAMiNG FOUL iSN’T GOiNG TO DO SHiT…iM SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT WE ALL KNOW iTS TRUE. HOW MANY TiMES HAS A SiTUATiON LiKE THiS HAPPENED? HOW MANY TiMES HAVE WE HAD TO ENDURE THiS??–HAVE WE NOT STOMPED OUR FEET iN THE PAVEMENT HARD ENUFF? WE’VE CRiED OUR TEARS–WE’VE FOUGHT FOR JUSTiCE…BUT…WHERES THE REWARD? WHERE’S THiS WOMANS SON? THE SONS LOST BEFORE HiM…THE FATHERS..DAUGHTERS…AND MOTHERS..???
THiS iS GOiNG TO CONTiNUE TO HAPPEN…
iT MiGHT NOT BE TELEVISED…
OR CAUGHT ON A CELL..
BUT iT HAPPENS EVERY FUCKiNG DAY..
WEATHER WE SEE iT OR NOT…
WEATHER YOU WANNA BELiEVE iT…OR TURN A BLiND EYE AND ACT LiKE SHiTS GON CHANGE TOMORROW….
ALL WE CAN DO IS PRAY. FORGIVE. AND CONTINUE TO PRAY… i PRAY FOR THiS COPS FAMILY– THE ViCTiMS FAMiLY…AND THOSE WHO WiTNESSED THE SHOOTiNG…
59.
JUDAH
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@Daisy
I’ll respond to this on the other thread.
60.
Foxyd
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
And lets not forget the young man gunned down in Augusta GA by police officers.
61.
Bay Areas Finest
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Rally against BART police today! 3-7pm FRUITVALE BART STATION!
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YoYo
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Our so called justice system needs to be completely overhauled. Rich get away with anything and if you are poor you are screwed doesn’t matter the skin color. Trust me, there are poor whites who get harrassed/murdered by the police as well. You just don’t hear about it or most minorities don’t pay it no attention unless it is another minority.
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dukesman2000
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@YOYO
Find me a story of a white man who was murdered by the police. I have never heard of any. There was one recently in NY where the cop tasered a mentality disturbed man and he fell to his death. That was a mistake. The cop never meant to kill him. The cop even committed suicide. We are talking about cold blooded murder; cold blooded murder like Amadou Diallo, Timothy Stansbury, Sean Bell and Oscar J. Grant III
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THERE IS A JAY-Z/RIHANNA S*X TAPE IN EXISTENCE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@49, who wrote the message I’ve pasted below - you are SO on point with this. I’m with you 100%
“Ami
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
This is a catastrophe. We are scared as hell as a race of people to ruffle the white man’s feathers. Because they have taught us that living like a coward and dying like a bi*ch is the best thing out. All in hopes of achieving the fallacy of the “American Dream”.
Black people are so darn scary when things like this happens they say “Well, what about all the black on black crime?” What!!?? You got to be effin kidding me!!! That shows you right there how heartless we are as a people, and I mean cowardly lion heartless.
I agree that, marching has it time and place. Other times, bloodshed and DEATH is the only way people get the picture. This has happened for thousands of years. With all due respect, Martin Luther King, Ghandi, Al Sharpton, etc, can not change that dynamic.
I know someone that has racist police in their city and they unjustifiably shoot black men and you know what? Black people retaliate and shoot the cops! I believe that is the only way the will think twice about killing our people. The uncertainty of DEATH has to be looming over there heads, not the threat of administrative leave of loosing their jobs. Come on, who would really take that serious… Would you?”
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dukesman2000
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
YoYo..Find me a story of a white man who was murdered by the police. I have never heard of any. There was one recently in NY where the cop tasered a mentality disturbed man and he fell to his death. That was a mistake. The cop never meant to kill him. The cop even committed suicide. We are talking about cold blooded murder; cold blooded murder like Amadou Diallo, Timothy Stansbury, Sean Bell and Oscar J. Grant III
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1500bytoday.com
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
sup everyone?
67.
TeTe
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
this just makes me so fkin sick…and regardless of black on black crimes,this is STILL wrong….i dont care if it was a white man,this is wrong!!the guy was face down,no gun,nothing so what could he have done to these bastards?and they have the baton things,whatever the fk they are,why the hell would he pull a gun out…this is ridiculous and quite franky,IT DOESNT SURPRISE me one bit!
i’ve had an encounter with a police officer myself so i know how this bullish feels..im just sick of it.
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Ari
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Protest outside Fruitvale BART Station Wednesday, January 7 from 3 - 7. If you are out in the Bay Area, please come out and support. Shout out to J. Dakar and CL for posting this. It may be local news but it’s a nationwide problem as we see in Texas.
WE ARE ASKING:
1) All officers involved be taken off duty without pay, and fully prosecuted;
2) That the U.S. Justice Department investigate the incident as a violation of civil rights;
3) That BART establish an independent citizens’ review board for its officers; and
4) That the BART police officers be disarmed!
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THERE IS A JAY-Z/RIHANNA S*X TAPE IN EXISTENCE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Let’s start killing cops. Let’s pin the muthas down on the ground and then bust a cap in their back and in the back of their heads. See how they enjoy that!
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Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
@ juju
I agree taking someone’s life is most severe. I never said it wasnt, but we will never fix the black on black crimes in our communities if we turn a blind eye to the underlying issues which include both male and female counterparts. … We’ll just agree to disagree on the rest. People should really sit down and have these “real” types of discussions even though they may make you angry and want to fight, but in the adult stage of life you’re supposed to be able to have a disagreement without resulting to juvenile behavior which is often the case. Not saying you did that, but thats often how people react when you tell them something they don’t want to hear.
Aspell brought up a great point about women having too many babies. Usually in those types of situations the mother has to work and take care of all those babies by herself puttng them in the low income bracket and well let’s face it some mothers put themselves before their kids….Some kids from those situations fall by the wayside and mesmerized by drug dealers and their money (since they don’t have any) along with the flock of females they keep. .., the false sense family and acceptance they find in a gang….This issue is one of those underlying problems that contribute whether directly or indirectly…I
However, I don’t mean to cause an argument, just an open discussion and I do realize how unjust and upsetting these situations were. History repeats itself except now they have badges, financial power, control of the media, they still use our own people to punish and control us, brought in drugs, guns, made us more materialistic..You think Gucci, Louis V, and Prada give a damn about your community but yet we spend all our dough buying that shit when you can get the same thing from the guy on the corner for $10. You’re paying for someones name or brand and it didn’t cost them 1/4 of the amount you spin to manufacture it (upgraded form of mental conditioning). I’m not saying all white people are bad (so please dont make that assumption), because there’s good and bad people in every race and gender. This is something that was started long before we got here and has since advanced.
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Cublktigress
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
spin…lol…spend…..you know what I meant….
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THERE IS A JAY-Z/RIHANNA S*X TAPE IN EXISTENCE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Enough of this ish about black on black violence. The pigs are PAID to PROTECT and SERVE us. They are not paid to murder us. They need to be held to a higher standard. This is about white crack pig scum MURDERING our black men. And getting away with it every time. Don’t you realize they actually enjoy and get a real kick out of murdering a black man just for the fun of it. It makes them feel powerful and God-like. They are getting away with doing whatever they like to us. I mean, honestly, what the HELL made those crackers think it was OK for them to sodomize Abner with the broom handle?? Admittedly in the Louima case they did get punished but it astounds me how these crackers think they can abuse and murder blacks just for fun. It really is time to give the cops a good whuppin and start killing them left and right.
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THERE IS A JAY-Z/RIHANNA S*X TAPE IN EXISTENCE
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
kill all cops
74.
Just Jizz
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
Where is my gotdarn post?
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Just Jizz
Wednesday, January 7, 2009 /
NEXT TIME A COP PULLS YOU OVER - SHOOT THE CRACKER IN THE FACE AND GO “HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW?” TO HIS WIDOW
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