wasn’t tiffany the same little girl singing about “im grown now”??? bitch please! and she gets another bitch please! if people bought her music like they bought beyonce’s music she wouldn’t have sh*t to say.

yo wut she says is only wut i’ve been saying the whole time… i be on hear trynna school u guys but y’all just wanna dismiss me as crazy… so how many y’all BELIEVE now?

Furious styles, I have been successful in the industry for many years, unlike you. you are dumber than i thought. re read my comments, i never suggest anything. not one thing. the only direct thing i said was if you are not apart of the industry, you don’t know a damn thing regardless of who you know. okay kid? you are a simply naive and need to wake up. im off to work now. ciao.

ARE WE SO DUMB THAT A PERSON SINGS A SONG ABOUT KILLING THEMSELVES, AND THE ONLY THING WE CAN SAY IS THAT “IT IS ART” REGAURDLESS OF THE MEANING OF THE SONG.WE ARE ONE OF THE DUMBEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ALL BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU ANYTHING AND YOU WILL JUST SAY “OH SHE JUST PLAYING” THIS IS NOT ALL ABOUT THIS PUNK AS SONG SO YOU CAN QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE MEANING OF THE SONG IT’S 10 MORE SONGS TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NEW ONE.FOR THE RECORD HOW DUMB ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT YOU FEEL THE NEED TO SING ABOUT SUCIDE I AM BLOWN AWAY MYSELF

@ Judas

You’re correct my statement was more of an intellectual statement not one supported in scripture per say.
I see you are from the school of thought that says…

“Free will has carried many a soul to hell; but never a soul to heaven.”

or

“If any man doth ascribe of salvation, even the very least, to the free will of man, he knoweth nothing of grace, and he hath not learnt Jesus Christ aright.” -Martin Luther

But I think that if you understand the word of The Most High you will make the right decisions but sometimes you don’t and you learn from Sins.

That was my main argument. That God gave Adam and Eve free will.

Yo, ever since I known you, you been out to get me
Acting like my peeps, but I know that’s how you tricked me
Love to see me get high, love to see my tipsy
Heard you even wanna stick a little chip in me
You been trying to play me close ever since my shine
Wanna take me to dinner, feed me shrimp and swine
You said, Amil I want you to meet a good friend of mine
His name is Money and we partners till the end of time
Introduced me to your clique, hate, envy, lust and greed
Said you want the whole world in ya custody
And if I give you my soul you’ll give me luxuries
Said you could hit me up wit power, it’s just up to me
I turn you on when I’m in short skirts and tight jeans
You want my kids to write Santa and celebrate Halloween
Told me sell my people crack and get rich off fens
You love the number 6 but hate the number 13

Chorus: [Carl Thomas]
We’ll have some quarrels
Some disappointments
And a whole lot of problems
And you will accept me

You wanna, be the one to pick me up when I fall
Told me hang Casear bojease on my living room wall
It was always something bout you that made my skin crawl
You turned me into a player and showed me how to ball
You give me rewards when I rob and steal
Want me to abort my babies and get on the pill
You put burners in the hood so each other we kill
I see your eye watching me on the dollar bills
When I got the scoop on you, it just made you mad
Cause I moved out your crib, packed all my bags
Them days I turned to you was the days you laughed
You used to smile every time I pledge allegiance to the flag
We speak now and then but we ain’t smacking hands
You be up in the clubs asking me for a dance
Still trying to convince me to go cheat on my man
Begging me to please give you just one more chance

When we was kids you was the one who taught me how to lie
Said I could always use you as my alibi
And you kept me from knowledge, wisdom, and the most high
Had me believe God had blonde hair and blue eyes
Our relationship went sour since I found the truth
You know you can’t have me so you fuck with my youth
You got all my phones tapped, I gotta talk at booths
I learned an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
You built Sodom and Gomorra for us all to live in
When we was cool you used to tell me all your visions
Like how you gonna rule the nations under one religion
You got this New World order, it’s like a big prison
You said you wanna be worshipped from noon to noon
Nothings gonna get better is what we all assumed
Cause nights is getting shorter and it’s snowing in June
I see you working overtime cause you out of here soon

@ Mother Jefferson

I’m not advocating that the Music Industry is not depraved at times. Sure they are! Tiffany does speak from experience especially when talking about how they had trouble marketing her. I think more so because of her age that her image. But I respect her for those types of comments. But let’s be frank these things have been around for a long time and we don’t look to the entertainment industry for any spiritual guidance or moral standards. My issue with Tiffany is that she is saying that Russian Roulette is going to cause suicide rates to rise. LIE. And that Rihanna has to be careful about what she is saying. One one level she is right. Lauryn Hill spoke about this on her unplugged CD. She was saying about this song she wrote about the Diallo situation that she had to be clear what she was saying before she sang it because of the topic matter. Artist should be responsible but sometimes music reflects different things and this is what makes freedom of expression great. Tiffany will have a hard time expressing her views within Def Jam but she should have thought about that BEFORE she signed there. There are smaller labels that would cater more to her brand of music and her personal beliefs but DEF JAM is not known for being Christian like. LOL

Rihanna is pushing things yes but let’s give the public the opportunity to say we like this or we don’t I don’t need Tiffany expressing her narrow views against another artist who is more “successful” than she is. Attacking other artist does not really say much to me. Twitter is something you can leave. It’s her opinion. But Rihanna is not hurting people and she is not demonic. That is nonsense.

——-@Curious Fowl

——-No lmao, your statement was more of a statement. You can stroke your ego on
——-your own time. There was nothing “intellectual” about what you alleged
——-whatsoever. It’s irrelevant. I got what I wanted, which is the acknowledgement
——-that your opinion is your god and there is no actual basis for your stance lol.
——-I am from the school that states, “Show and prove.”. I respect research and
——-knowledge, not philosophizing and attempts at self-aggrandizement. You do not
——-even have the intellectual capacity, nor the moral fiber to speak for me, much
——-less the Most High. If people are to have a discussion on the Lord, they must
——-know the scriptures, not quotes from men lmao. You are so desperate to come
——-off as learned and intelligent. It is really quite pathetic.

TIFF - don’t worry. Rihanna can’t influence anyone when she’s too busy copying her idol herself. She’s not talented enough to be influential on any level.

Now, that Melanie Fiona chick has a BANGER of a single!!!

Support real talent people.

THANK THE LORD PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO SEE THE LIGHT

TIFFANY THANK YOU, BUT BE CAREFUL, THE TRUTH COULD PUT YOU IN DANGER

ALL THIS FREEMASON/ ILLUMINATI STUFF YOU HEAR OF IS CORRECT.

I NEED YOU ALL TO RESEARCH RIHANNA’S UMBRELLA VIDEO TO FIND OUT THE TRUE MEANING.

SAVE YOUR SOUL.

Rihanna shot with a gun,jay-z shot up in the one video, Ga Ga hung herself on the stage during a performance, Kanye just killed himself in a short film.

HE IS ALIVE. SAVE YOURSELVES.

WHY IS IT ONLY BLACK PPL

i agree with tiffany. takes me back to when usher’s wife said that he changed into a different person when he was trying to get his fame back. even though i don’t like her lol. However i can see people getting lost in the industry for fame and money, people will do anything for money…i want to know who these “devil worshipers” are though.

TIFFANY BETTER WATCH HER BACK NOW!

LMAO @ Judah

All your statements are self-aggrandizing that is your form of expression. LMAO

And I love how you show your opposition to all things intellectual. Martin Luther is one of the most strident intellectual minds when it comes to the subject to religious study. There are many philosophical approaches to religion idiot. And scripture is LITERARURE which means it can be interpreted in many ways. You are correct when you say that scripture does not support the notion of free will but that can also be debated. Strict interpretation of the Bible or other religious books is favored by people who accept blind faith over intellectual discourse. Judah it’s clear you are threatened by intelligent people because they can see right through the gibberish you attempt to present as factual information.

You know what, I believe Tiffany Evans is right to a certain extent. She’s basically saying that it’s okay to make a deep song, but the problem is that Rihanna’s song is clearly pointing towards the suicidal rout and the fact that Rihanna is such a huge influence on today’s youth culture or pop culture, this song “Russian Roulette” is bound to make an impact with the listeners. And I don’t think Tiffany is saying this to spark an interest in her own career, because whenever an artist speaks out against the industry they are likely to be blacklisted. She is actually taking a chance with speaking the truth. That’s bold….Anyhow, I do think Rihanna’s song is hot, but I would suggest another single.

I first want to know who is Tiffany Evans? and who made her an expert on what’s HOT and What’s NOT….. I personally like Rihanna’s new song and the picture. I think if you want to blame anybody for tryin to knock her off her game it probaly is the record co…..Jay-Z is married to Beyonce….He’s gonna look out for home first. But, Beyonce new song is NOT that HOT either! so….She needs to come again.

@ Brandon

Instead of being a Parrot can you explain exactly how Rihanna’s song is ADVOCATING Suicide can you be more specific in your criticism?

People just type the same nonsense over and over and don’t think.

Neyo wrote a great song and people have the intelligence to understand the meaning of the song and they understand what at stake with Russian Roulette in the context of this song. Russian Roulette is a game of RISK. You can be killed and some people play it because they seek death but this is not what she is singing about.

She is talking about the risks of LOVE the Gun is a graphic symbol of that Risk.
Tiffany needs to read more books and if she was so worried about her image why is she signed to the same Label as Fox Brown???? LMAO PLEASE.
Foxy was on Def Jam before Tiffany so she knew the types of artist she would be associated with and now she has all these concerns after doing failed songs with Bow WOW and C-Error LMAO

NOTE TO Furious Styles…The song is a so-called metaphor on ‘taking a chance with love,’ but Rihanna and Ne-Yo (who wrote the song) is comparing it to taking a chance with pointing a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. AND please, let me say that I like Rihanna’s new song and I understand how she is trying to be an artist, HOWEVER, I’m also thinking about Tiffany Evans post about saying that there are a lot of weak minded people in the world who will coincide it with suicide, thus, they will put guns to their head and contemplate about whether or not they should just pull the trigger or not…It’s about today’s kids. And how will they react to it. And I applaud Tiffany for being so young, but not so naive.

——@Curious Fowl

——Again, and I don’t think you grasp this….philosophy is the worship of one’s own
——OPINION. You cannot philosophize the Bible unless you: a) don’t understand it
——b) believe that it was contrived and concocted by men. It is not a term paper for
——you and other simpletons to banter over. It is either understood or it is not, lol.
——Have you ever read anything on Martin Luther? Not read what he said, but read
——anything ABOUT HIM? He was a Rosicrucian, which means that it was his task,
——as an “enlightened one”, to cause confusion in a church system that was already
——rooted in satanism. I don’t have to ask anyone’s opinion on 1+1. It is a concept
——that is either grasped or it is not grasped. If you believe that scripture is
——”LITERARURE” (I always knew you were a canine), and is “open to
——interpretation”, that is CONTRARY to what the men of scripture themselves say
——concerning scripture (II Peter 1:20,21). To understand the scripture, the Holy
——Spirit must be working with you. It is spiritual, not carnal. Stick to what you
——know, which is proofreading lmao.

TIFFANY EVANS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT SHE WAS PUTTING OUT A NEW ALBUM AND ALL OF THIS. I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SHE HERSELF IS IN THE INDUSTRY TRYING TO GET FAME AND RECOGNITION YET SHE PROBABLY NEVER EVEN MET RIHANNA, JAYZ, BEYONCE, OR NEYO FOR THAT MATTER. SHE PROBABLY JUST BEING LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THOSE CONSPIRACY’S ON THINGS LIKE THIS BUT HAVEN’T YET ENCOUNTERED IT FROM THE PEOPLE THEY ACCUSE. ESPECIALLY WITH HER BEING SO UNKNOWN IM WILLING TO BET SHE BELIEVES THIS IS WHY HER CAREER HAS NOT TAKEN OFF.

AND SMH AT THE FACT THAT SHE HAS SHORT RED HAIR AND WHATEVER THE HELL KIND OF OUTFIT SHE HAS ON WITH BLACK NAILS HOLDING A LIGHTER. AND SHE IS LIKE WHAT 16???

JUDAH im sorry for not believing you. My boyfriend has been trying to tell me this for some months now, but i didnt believe him. Its sounds crazy but its true! These bastards are really trying to take over the world! They already take over the world! But they want to make it known because right now theyre hiding! This has been going on for thousands of years! All the presidents including Obama are related, they are born into it! Dont you think its crazy how as soon as 2Pac started speaking out about them and even had a cd soon to be released entitled “Killuminati” he was murdered! The same thing with Michael Jackson, they killed him too right when he was gonna have his huge comeback tour. MJ influenced millions of people to do good, he didnt join part, they wanted to recruit him! Right now they have everyone running scared, worrying about terrorist, global warming, recession, swine flu, and aliens! Its all a hoax to keep you from seeing what is really going on! They’re depopulating the world. These are the same people behind major tragedies like 9/11, Oklahoma City Bombings, Katrina etc. Please dont be ignorant to the truth, dont let them brainwash you! They are evil! Repent!

I mean what she says is pretty tru i was warned about things like this as a child but I mean come on if ur that stupid to just kill urself then u prolly already had intentions of doing so anyways… also come on our biggest artists n producers havin secret meetings in the night on certain days sacrificing their fans to get up in da game lol a joke to me and if they do worship the devil thats on them cuz I dont and with that being said IDC lol

all yall talkin about tiffany isnt relevant. does it matter? none of us are famous but we all put in our 2 cents on these blog comments. and for those sayin “who is she to open her mouth…” are u serious? this was on her twitter page. if u cant say whatever the hell u want on twitter then where can u say it? tiffany evans was just sayin what she feels, just like we all are here on concreteloop. and i wish somebody would try to say somethin to me about whats on my twitter page.

and honestly, im not gonna say i straight up believe this, but i believe it more than i am skeptical about it. whether or not rihanna, jay-z or kanye is apart of this, idk. but im SURE a good amount of people in the industry are. and not just in the industry but anywhere in life. part of the devil’s plan is for the general public to not see him as a threat. i mean thats basically what the devil wants: for ppl to do “bad” things. thats his whole goal. so he gon do what he gotta do to get it. thats why ppl sell their soul: cuz the devil is willing to do whatever they want if they give him their soul in return. its really sad. just like a pedophile may use candy to lure a kid into their car, the devil uses somethin u desire (success) to get what he wants from u (ur soul)

idk why ppl find this so ridiculous. maybe if u dont believe in God or the devil then ok. but even if not rihanna, i know ppl do this. just look at how the music industry operates. most businessmen consider music a product to be sold, rather than a creative talent used to express yourself.

and a lotta “artists” these days dont even care. they just do what they gotta do to get paid. just like the OJays say in their song “for the love of money.”

all i know is the devil is a lie. and im not a religious zealot. im really not but ima keep prayin for this crazy world we live in. cuz i worry about us sometimes.

dang. i didnt even mean to type a whole essay. haha

Lmfao @ #398.: “These bastards are really trying to take over the world!”

I was deciding whether I wanted to comment in here or not, or just read what everyone had to say. Here are my 2 cents:

I’ve seen some people on here calling those who aren’t grasping the concept of Rihanna worshipping satan, etc.. “retarded”, “idiots”, etc… To a ceratin extent I would be defensive too if someone came at me like that about how I feel about something , whether it’s founded or not. But the point is, you can’t MAKE someone grasp something that doesn’t want to or who simply doesn’t believe in what you’re saying. That’s like trying to beat scripture down a non-believer’s throat. It’s not Christ-like at all because Christ Himself didn’t beat the Truth over people’s heads. He gave them a CHOICE. The TRUTH is the truth whether people believe it is or not. And the TRUTH doesn’t need to be defended. It defends itself once its stated. Whether a person agrees with it or not doesn’t validate it.

My other point is, some are saying “where does Rihanna say that she worships satan”? If you were a thief, would you go around telling people that you were one? Of course not. And if you all knew who satan truly was, you’d know that he doesn’t parade himself around as Captain Obvious. His desire is to steal and to kill and to destroy. Why would he make that OBVIOUS?

Final point: Remove the fact, for a minute that this is Rihanna. If another artist or a heavy metal band was singing this SAME song, would you still listen to it? Would you still defend it? I would venture to say that you wouldn’t. Rihanna has an APPEAL (i.e. her looks) that some folks just can’t get past and that is no coincidence. You’re not going to be drawn to something that is not appealing to you and the devil knows that. It’s up to you on what you choose to believe.

All I gotta say is Tiffany better watch her back. She’s probably been threatened already, so she’s saying what she said while still living. It’s a shame they’ve turned music into DEVIL WORSHIP. ITs true, no coincidence. Music is just not the same anymore. A lot of it does not make sense with all that chanting, and words that have no meaning. And if u notice, in the United States, they keep pushing the same people like no else has talent here: Rhianna, Beyonce, Hilson, Ciara, JayZ, Lil Wayne, Kanye. All these people are in heavy rotation, NON-STOP. And if you really look at their talent, it’s AVERAGE. JayZ got swag, but anyone CAN copy it that. He’s been busted for copying TuPacs style, so give me a break.

@392

Co-sign with

this tiffany girl needs to address where the real issues are at…the problem are the executives….even if you aim at Rihanna…they’ll find another artist that will do the harm, so hit em where it hurts….their pockets and get rid of these execs (old bastards are always ruining things)

omg tiffany evans needs to shut up how many #1 hits has she made? 1 hit record promise ring hunni sit down somewhere no matter what rihanna sing about she’ll always be better dan you & people will continue to support her! Gosh listen to lil wayne yo gotti, & many other rappers lyrics (dont get me wrong I listen to those people too) they all rap about shooting killing drugs liquor & etc but does that mean people go out and actually do those things get real. I bet if Ne-Yo asked you to sing it you wouldve happily sung the song with no problems! I so hate young females hating on the next one….JUST FOR THE RECORD…I LOVE RIHANNA NEW SONG SHE’S THE BOMB…THE ONLY ARTIST I WOULD PAY MORE THAN 100 TO SEE IN CONCERT….CONTINUE TO HATE ON RI-RI SHE’LL BE A LEGEND JUST LIKE WHITNEY HA!

Okay I want to say first of all Tiffany is hypocritical.
I wanted to blast her on twitter but the youngin got her twitter page locked.

Why in the world would you want to be in an industry that you say for yourself is ran by the devil? Explain that to me? Why would you want any association with anything that’s has dealings with the devil? Her single Promise Ring had Ciara in it. In a interview Tiffany said that she saw Ciara as her mentor. Excuse me? You see Ciara as a mentor? Exactly what is Ciara mentoring you in? How to dry hump a pole properly? All Ciara is about is glamorizing sex and her single with Justin Timberlake just proves my point. Added a couple more scenes and that would have been a soft-core porno. I don’t read about her ranting about how suggestive, provocative, and down right trashy Ciara’s videos can have a negative impact on young girls especially our young black ladies
Why she worrying about getting in trouble and why want she name people? Is it because deep down she wants to be apart of this devil worshipping industry? That’s what it seems to me. she still trying hustle up notiarity in this industry, hence her making controversial statements like these. She is so full of crap. Name off the big guns and then I’ll believe you, but she won’t do that because she wants to work in the devil’s industry.

As for the rest of y’all worrying about the souls of these artists you need to be worrying about your own. You say they worship devil, what do you think you and your children are doing this October 31st when you all are going trick or treating and your Halloween parties dressed as witches, goblins, and yes even the Devil. Or on December 25th when you all are under the Christmas tree unwrapping your gifts. Look for Dec. 25th in Bible and I bet you won’t find it. Look up the orgins of Christmas and what it really means it’s heavily documented.

Hello Tiffany my name is Theresa aka Jonesite, and also missexyfreeandlast. Their were my s/n when i used to join an artist websites and twitter. Tiffany i just want to say Thank you soo much. I will pray for you and hope you don’t get into trouble. What you did was inspirational and most all BOLD. Thank you for saving my life. You saved my life. I’m a retired STock broker and also an retired Promoter for entertainment as well. I used to work for my sister. The reason why i’m not working because i suffer depression. I’m living on Social Security. I’ve been sick since.

I most omit, I’m a BOW WOW worshiper. I idolized that man for over 9 – 10 years. We all know Shad G Moss as known as Bow Wow lil Bow Wow rather he was a kid star. I met Shad more then once. When i was out of town and when he came to my town. You did duet with him.

I just want to say that you are soo damn right about them artists. I recently had a bad experience with him more then once Tiffany. One time i was on the most popular website of all time called Hoodstars once again but this time on twitter. It happen yeah last week or so yeah. Now you was talking about Jayz, and Rihannia i’m not so suprise i knew she was kind of weird. I’m totally finished with Kanye West. What soo sad he lives in my hometown. I was a big huge fan of B2K, immature, the hottest group of all time has faded away. Marques Houston and Omarion they are nothing but devils. I met them too. They totally changed. I don’t blame, Boog, Fizz , and Raz b. Raz b is a GOD FEARING MAN. He so is. I used to go to scream tours and stuff. I had some great times. I used to like Ciara not anymore now. Even she’s changed too. Back with Bow Wow he was soo sweet, humbled. He was the main artist that i would go out and buy his ~$%*!!!! And not just cd’s either you talking about tshirts, movies, shoes, ringstones that got my phone bill sky high, went to every show he performed can i go on.

As he got older he gotton nasty, cursing, smelling himself and he thinks he ~$%* don’t stank, dissing fans. he call us STANS now. He used to call us FAM/FANS what happen?? He went from come close how r u til move, get away from me type of attitude. He has totally changed. That’s how i got that feeling when i met him When he came to chicago a while ago. I guess after a while he going to make song about us. He takes our money and give it to these video hoes who don’t give 2 shits about him. He used to loves us but not anymore on twitter he talks to Celbs, and people he knows which to me it’s totally BS. Every now and then he talks to a fan. Until you bug the crap out of him if keep on harassing him he’ll block u. That’s what happen to me. To make a long story short, BOW WOW HAS CHANGED he even start hanging with the wrong people including CHRIS BROWN who used to go with Rihanna until he beat ~$%* outta her.

Tiffany all i can say is this, Thank you, Satan is busy. I’m going to start going back to church and do some deep research about what you said. As far as Bow Wow concern after what he did to me, that’s ok, AS LONG AS I GOT JESUS I DONT NEED NOBODY ELSE. Bow got is so far his latest album only sold 18k. Next album i guarantee, its going flop harder then ever so now his buddy Lil Wayne is going to Jail, first T.I. now Wayne. Shad you ~$%* creep now. Now he’s signing with CASH MONEY. Other then that thanks alot for waking me up and i really feel good about myself after you stood up.

I didn’t hear Tiffany’s mouth when Lil wanye was talking about effin every girl in the world. If that aint bad then idk what is!

Its either you believe in God or you don’t. If you truly have that personal connection with God, then nothing can sway you. If you’re so easy influenced by a SONG or what others say, you never believed to begin with. God gives us free will to make our own choices don’t blame Rihanna for merely doing what she is paid to do which is to entertain. The choice is simple, If you don’t like the song, then don’t listen to it. Its not that deep!

Also if ppl who worshipped the devil were controlling Rih to put out a song like that (Ne-Yo we watching you lol), why would they promote killing yourself? Suicide has nothing to do w/ the devil so the concept she’s trying to tie together is not consistent but I see her point. I just wish her rant was more cohesive or at least tied to a different subject therefore it would be stronger regardless of her “celebrity” status.

Since my 1st post didn’t make it, I’ll rewrite it. Stop calling satanists devil worshippers. Satanists (the real ones) do not worship the devil; in fact they are atheists. They don’t believe in the devil which they feel is a christian concept (which it is btw). I digress; suicide has been sung about many times in music so it isn’t that serious. If someone was gonna pull the plug, they don’t need a new song to do it. I think the only thing you have in terms of protecting the youth is YOUR WORD. Teach them things that counteract topics like these and most importantly make them feel loved so suicide never crosses there minds. Songs don’t kill ppl; ppl who are neglected and abused often do. Oh and who the hell was talking trash about Halloween because I’m about to light you up. Halloween as NOT A DAMN THING to do w/ the devil directly so STFU. Halloween is rooted from the celtic new year and christian’s (yea, that’s right CHRISTIANS) all saint’s day. All those traditions you pointed out where to PROTECT ppl from evil spirits since they felt that time of the year was when the veil btwn the living and unliving world was thinnest. Don’t disrespect my favorite time of the year, dude. Especially if you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

@ Judah

I hate to break this to you but the Bible is created and written by men and unless you can show me “proof” that some divine force created the Bible I suggest you shut up. Because you can’t provide me any proof that men did not write the Bible but I can provide you proof that men did write it. And I can offer you some reasons as to why they wrote it. Philosophy is an excellent discipline. Philosophers don’t leave things to faith alone but provide arguments that are worth having. Religion was born out of man’s inability to provide answers to questions like death and when life began.

ALL Religions are man made. And the Bible is literature and there are many ways to interpret scripture and it’s still done till this day all over this GLOBE. Judah your views on Religion are yours. There are stronger points to be made on a subject as vast as religion. Philosophy is not the study of ones own opinions are you nuts? I think you really need a proper education because your views hardly reflected the education of a well balanced person (surprise surprise LMAO).
With you everything has a “ghetto” slant or bastardization of truth.
Let me define for you what Philosophy is….Philosophy is is the study of general and fundamental problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, the mind, and language. Philosophy is also distinguished from other ways of addressing these questions (such as mysticism or mythology) by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on reasoned argument. There are also many branches of Philosophy that particular address ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology just to name a few. So I’m not sure where your definition of this discipline falls. And you don’t need the “holy spirit” to understand what scripture is saying or intending. These are things written about by man and if you studied the reasons for religions you could ask more probing questions about scripture such as the subjects about free will and sin in the context of scripture. So save your BS for people who worships your idiocy and hang on your every word as if you are some “Messiah” and feed your narcissism.
Judah if you are any “prophet” you are a false one. And you are also not the judge of Jay-Z, Rihanna, or Kanye West or anyone for that matter. But your opinions are the perfect spring board for comedy and cheap laughs (completely at your expense). For that you are the very BEST.

For the person saying to worry about your own needs to shut they selfish behind up. when u have compassion for people or is born again, that is exactly what people should be doing. concern themselves with the souls of others and win them over to christ. be a witness with love and gentleness, not by force. god bless.

@407.

So true about Tiffany. First of all she is NOT a big star @ all. If someone like Kanye West were to come out with a statement like this I would 100% believe him just because of what he has to lose. He’s heavily associated with the people that are accused of being devils. Tiffany has nothing to lose I mean didn’t her last album sell only about 12,000 the first week? Exactly she is not apart of whats going on (if it is going on) her guess is just as good as the rest of the conspiracy nuts that lurk the industry. She has not been deep into the sh*t and somewhere deep inside I believe she wants to be apart of it. You don’t get in the industry because you wanna sell 12,000 in one week. You are in it to get FAME, RECOGNITION, AND MONEY. Unless she leaves her label and becomes an internet youtube singer or something I’M NOT BUYING IT.

Dang my last message got erased..but anyway Tiffany.. I can say agree w/some of the things she is saying BUT she comes off as a little bitter and she LOOKS like she has been “tricked out” to the game as well. Look at her picture..I mean I know ppl grow personally but don’t you notice all the mainstream female artists start off more innocent then later in their career they may look….”edgy” or “fierce” if you will. LMBO I wont even start because I come on this website enough to see the idiots WORSHIPPING these entertainers. Have you forgotten that’s what they are? Entertainers. Not gods, kings, queens etc? WTF? Tiffany better be careful what she says..this may get ugly. But hey, Rihanna knew she was taking a “risk” by releasing this track since she’s a GGGB and all, she can’t be too suprised by the backlash it’s getting. We’re just gonna have to wait and see what she has to say..IF she is ALLOWED to speak. Let most of the people on here continue on with either their bashing or ass licking..

http://www.youtube.com/wa...jLZeg&feature=related

This is all u need to SEE ABOUT RIAHNNA THIS VIDEO TELLS THE TRUTH. JAYZ HAS THE WHOLE GAME WRAPPED UP. HE IS LEADING THE CHARGE I HOPE BEYONCE ISNT IN THIS

The thing is with all that’s going on in the world today why we gotta write a song about putting a loaded gun to the head and pulling the trigger. Is this what art has come to? This aint cute. Most of us may be wise enough to know better but some out here aren’t. This topic isn’t nothing to sing about especially when it references a gun. RiRi is cute but aint nobody that cute. Go back and study the greats and learn how to tell a story without referencing playing with life people are in distress out here we need to lift each other up. No time for foolish metaphors.

Glad Someone is saying something. This is real, and yes it’s hard to give up artists that we’ve grown to love, but we’re risking our futures now. I’m seeing all kinds of REAL things all around me now, and the truth is like…Right In Our Faces!!!
We gotta stop lying and acting like it’s nothing. Time to Get ready, because Lucifer is ready to play, and only God is strong enough to take him down.
And that’s the truth…you just gotta do a little research and you’ll see how obvious it is.
Commenting on the lyrics though, Rihanna doesn’t seem too happy about her current situation. “he says close your eyes,Sometimes it helps”… who’s “he”? then he tells her to pull the trigger and kill herself?….research that if you’re not sure. I already know the answer.

now yoll, it’s time to hear with your eyes and see with your ears, now that some of you are tryin to awake to this truthful post, think abroad, not only in the music industry but politics and gov””t……if u were moved by this and now wonder what’s really going on, u can’t be dumbfounded when they put lies and disguises on TV and in school, just keep seeing and hearing, trust me you’ll be awaken to some crazy wordly sh*t

She’s right about people taking the lyrics in music to heart.

But the devil worshiping bs? SMH, get real.

MAN THIS AINT NOTHING BUT TRUTH…I TALK ABOUT THE STUFF THATS GOES ON IN HOLLYWOOD BOUT EVERY DAMN DAY…FROM THE ILLUMINAT…TO THE MASONS…TO ALL THAT BLOOD SACRIFICE MESS…! THEY BEEN TALKING BOUT THIS FOR YEARS JUST NOT IN THE OPEN BCUZ A LOT OF IT IS SECRET SOCIETY SHIT. BUT JUST LIKE IN THE BIBLE DAYS THEY DIDNT BELIEVE NOAH WHEN HE SAID GET ON DAT BOAT…ALL THIS STUFF IS THAT JUST MODERN DAY AND A DIFFERENT SITUATION…BUT ALL THINGS DONE IN THE DARK WILL HAVE TO COME TO LIGHT SOONER OR LATER…BELIEVE IT OR NOT…I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU DO OR DONT…!

U guys do realize that the same group ur associating with rihanna is also implicated with the likes of barack obama, bill and hillary clinton, jfk, etc. Don’t believe things without proof. Why would such powerful people use metaphors and cheap parlor tricks to spread their message. Seems far fetched!

Was Chris Brown suppose to have been Rhianna blood sacrifice , the majority of blood sacrifices involves vehicle accidents or poisoning through drugs ,alcohol or prescription drugs majority of American are addicted to drugs anyway can you imagine what will really HAPPEN WHEN THE SHIT GOES DOWN,I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP THIS IS INFO I HEARD FROM A MEDICAL DOCTOR who claims we are not even in the depression stage yet MARYLIN MUNROE WAS THE KENNEDYS BLOOD SACRIFICE MARTIN Luther KING WAS AL SHARPTONS AND REV JESSIES JACKSON BLOOD SACRIFICE Jesse was not happy when Obama one his spotlight was taken away hence is secret tapings conveniently picked up by Fox news dissing Obama

tiffany evans is right!! check this out people…..http://vigilantcitizen.com/

oh Lawd
Wednesday, October 21, 2009 /
rihanna stans are all gonna perish in hell with their god. foolish ignorant excuses for
human beings.
—————————————————————————————————————————
AND SO WILL YOU FOR JUDGING PEOPLE YOU DON’T KNOW AND THINKING YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHO WILL GO TO HELL. THAT ISN’T YOUR DECISION TO MAKE. IT’S GOD’S DECISION. WHO ARE YOU?
GO PRAY FOR YOUR OWN SOUL AND STOP WISHING ETERNAL DAMNATION ON PEOPLE OVER A POP SINGER. WTF?

@ SIRMAM

CO-SIGN 100%
PEOPLE GO ON AND ON ABOUT HOW THEY DON’T SUPPORT THE OCCULT THEN GO RIGHT OUT AND DRESS THEIR CHILDREN LIKE ZOMBIES, WITCHES, AND DEVILS ALL IN “FUN” FOR HALLOWEEN.

H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S!!!

AND TIFFANY EVANS IS THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE OF THEM ALL. SHE CLAIMS THE INDUSTRY IS SO CORRUPT THEN WHY DOESN’T SHE FIND A NEW CAREER? WHY RUB ELBOWS WITH THE DEVIL?

HER ENTIRE TWEET WAS COMPLETE RUBBISH!

ALL THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT “SEE I KNEW IT WAS TRUE” ALL BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE RIHANNA. THEN YOU SAY “I HOPE BEYONCE ISN’T A PART OF THIS” YOU SOUND REALLY STUPID. IF JAY-Z IS SUPPOSEDLY A PART OF THE ILLUMINATI AND BEYONCE IS MARRIED TO HIM…??? UH DUH..

JUST STFU. PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE TOO RETARDED FOR WORDS.

Suicidal rate gon sky rocket?? Lmao! Really Tiff? People will just be dropping like flies all because Rihanna has a new song out huh?
What’s next? Will you be blaming Rihanna for the economy too? How about global warming? Yes that darn RiRi. She must be stopped! Smh.

Let’s not be ignorant it’s not like Rihanna’s the blame but it damn sure doesn’t help. With all the BS going on in the world the last thing we need to be doing is writing an ignorant ass metaphor about putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger. There’s absolutely no reason for this BS it doesn’t matter who sang,wrote or produced it. We need a Mercy Mercy Me, we need a What The F–k Is Going On. We need songs that inspire or entertainment. We need a Sh– Or Get Off The Pot Barack song. Then we turn around and celebrate Lil Wayne and Drake on the stage with 12 yr olds talking bout they wish they can f–k every girl in the world (Looks like Lil Wayne is serious) then GaGa with this bloody suicide BS on the awards and killing her man in her video. People are sick out here. Not all of us but some are. This BS is not entertainment.

——@Curious Fowl

——Stay focused lmao. This conversation is not about religion. This conversation is
——pertaining to you imputing your OPINION as the will and testimony of the Most
——High, which I’ve already proven you’re doing. Please, don’t play the obnoxious
——black woman and pull the “education” card lmao. You do not know, nor
——understand what the word “education” means, nor what it entails, much less
——where or to what extent I’ve been educated/indoctrinated/counter-indoctrinated
——etc. You’re gettin frustrated because you realize that you cannot get out this
——conversation without acknowledging that you are at best delusional lol. Now you
——are alleging that men wrote the Bible, which they did lol. That’s not the issue.
——The issue is whether or not they were divinely directed, which you can neither
——”prove” nor “disprove” because you are not spiritual. You are carnal. For you to
——understand the spiritual aspect of the creation of the scriptures, you must believe
——in the Most High, which you don’t. I don’t think you realize this, nor how much of
——a hypocrite you’ve exposed yourself to be.

You first alleged that “God” (whoever
——that is in your mind) “gave us ‘free will’ “, lol. You then cited Adam and Eve as an
——example, which they are not in any way whatsoever. Now you are saying that the
——Bible is written by man and is open to interpretation. So, inherently you are
——contradicting yourself because you are taking the divine element out of the Bible
——lmao. I did not say that philosophy is the study of one’s opinion you moron. I
——said that it is the WORSHIP of one’s opinion, that being the philosopher (him or
——herself) instituting a belief system based on one’s own perceptions. Philosophies
——are flawed by nature as human being can ever have a complete understanding
——of anything without imputing PERSONAL opinion. This is the reason why
——philosophers ARGUE. Their opinions do not agree. You’re so simple that you are
——beyond any use as anything other than a foil. In regards to philosophers
——themselves, as with Martin Luther, it is clear that you’ve never done research on
——these people as much as read what they themselves have said. They are almost
——ALL inerringly worshipers of self, satanists, and h*mosexuals.

Thank you OTIS… I agree 150%!
People all over are stressed.. Problems with finances, family, robberies, kids killing kids, the list goes on.

Fine time to put out that kind of song!

Thanks again OTIS!

Hopefully the only casualty from this is Rihanna’s career that’s already on the train track of wreckage.

LMAO at anyone thinking that Rerun is deep. This whore is a bore!

Lol, believe it if you want.. as it says in the bible.. those who have an ear hear.
To be honest, if Tiffany Evans is just usin this to play up a lil bit for sum attention, it will be down to her and God and he will punish her accordingly. However if she is sayin the truth, as I believe she is, I think everyone should take this as a warning, as it does say in ephesians, do not take part in works of darkness but expose them.

So all of you guys who are dissin tiffany, i can say laugh now cry later.. as shes just helping you because she knows where she wants to be heading when she dies.

I personally do believe in all this shit thts been happenin.. Jay Z even said in his lyrics (empire state of mind or wteva), ” Jesus can’t save you, life start’s when the church end”. Those who choose to jus over look all dis shit das happenin, jus dont let it be too late till u realise. It even gets me wonderin about all these other stars that i like..wow.

Just kno if ur laughin at tiffany..i pray god doesn’t laugh at u on judgement day. Those who take this as a joke..good luck. Tbh, everything thats being said is for your own good, theres 2 paths and you can either choose glory for eternity or everlasting burning. You’ll all see.

Lol.. people make me laugh.. look at the way everyone is trying to make excuses and go round what is EXACTLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
Do not defend Rihanna because you are not sure if you defending the devil. Thats exactly what the devil does to people, he doesnt even mind if people do not believe he is real because either way if you do or dont..you’ll end up residing with him in the forever burning furnace for eternity.

Guys do not reject whats in front of you @LOVE 434 thats very true… 2 paths. choose which 1 u wanna go. loool people think God is a joke, it wont be so funny when you regret all things you could have done to make it possible to enter heaven.

@ Judah

LMAO

Do not presume to speak for my spiritual beliefs thank you. You really need to do something about your inferiority complex it’s really getting out of hand and it clouds what little judgment you seem to possess. Now let me see if I have your “argument” correct LMAO. “The issue is whether or not they were divinely directed, which you can neither prove nor disprove because you are not spiritual.” This is an excellent example of your thought process or lack there of. Divine inspiration is a very subjective matter of course it can’t be proven or disproved (DUH) but you don’t need to be “divine” to understand the Bible. Philosophers can also be spiritual and still argue points or positions of the Bible Judah. Have you read any of Cornel West’s writings????? You really make me laugh. And I happen to be very spiritual but you don’t have to be “spiritual” to study scripture and to understand the intention of it. Now to the matter of free will. All people have free will and the concept of temptation is very spiritual and that is why I referenced Adam and Eve and while you may dismiss that it does not mean you are correct Judah. You seem dismissive of many points of view that you can’t grasp. You live in this narrow universe where only your opinion seems to matter and then you have the nerve to claim that others “WORHSIP” their own opinions as if YOU don’t. LMAO I see a great deal of projection with you and it’s really the height of hypocrisy. And what is your issue with homosexuality? You bring it up when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. More intolerance and ignorance. You often reference lesbians and gays are you insecure about your sexuality Judah?? You often bring this up and I wonder why? And in the context of Philosophy you are being dismissive of some philosophers who were also gay, so does that make them less intelligent in your eyes??? You are really funny. I suggest you seek therapy you really need it. You have so many issues.

yeah, i actually kinda agree, people who grew up in church singing, probably hardly has time for God anymore, I believe he has been put on the back burner for a lot of artist. ya’ll probably think Tiffany is crazy or something for saying this but, if you believe in God and devil, you know whats up. and those who try not to put him on the back burner, still curse and exploit women and flaunt their bodies and represent their image more than God’s image.

Im not saying i believe or dont believen Tiffany but Im not being blinded to the fact that its possible…I being hearing these things myself so there is truth somewhere…and I hate when people say music and tv is entertainment, but some of the music they sing or rap about is personal to them so some of what they sa is TRUE about them!..WAKE UP people!

—–@Curious Fowl

—–Where have I spoken for your spiritual beliefs lmao? You have yet to show that
—–you have spiritual beliefs. I’m going by what you’ve said, and what you’ve been
—–forced to say. As I’ve told you, you should stick to proofreading. Cease with the
—–strawman arguments and ad hominems. They are weak diversionary tactics that
—–only highlight how abysmal your intelligence level is. The only way that you can
—–prove whether or not one must have spiritual insight to understand the Bible is to
—–show that you understand it. Are you putting this argument forth because you
—–know that you have no spiritual understanding lol? Again, what you state is
—–contrary to the Bible (Matt 13:10,11, John 3:27). See, lmao, this is the utter
—–fruitlessness of your mindset. You been trained like a hamster in a wheel to think
—–that you actually have a chance to go somewhere because you’re exerting
—–effort. That is philosophy. Mental posing. You don’t even know basic precepts
—–pertaining to the scriptures, and the more you pursue this conversation the
—–dumber you will expose yourself to be. My pleasure.

—–How did Cornel West become involved in this conversation lmao? You are truly a
—–clown. I’ve read his Reader just so I would know his stance on certain issues so
—–I would have a greater understanding of a Boule formulated argument. In my
—–honest opinion, he needs to be hung by that scarf he wears. He is one of a series
—–of buffer pseudo-intellectuals and “civil rights leaders” who have been set up by
—–the white man to dissuade blacks from a realistic appraisal of their condition.

—–To be a lawyer, you must know the law. To be a doctor, you must know medicine,
—–to be spiritual, you must understand the Spirit. That’s basic common sense, even
—–to an imbecile like yourself. The question is how does one understand the
—–Spirit? The Bible tells you how to understand the Spirit, if you are Chosen (John
—–15:16). You understand through study of the Word, which is Christ (John 3:34,
—–II Tim 2:15). You cannot hypothesize on something that is superior to you. To
—–quantify God and godly things would make you superior to those things. This is
—–why the Bible tells us that the Most High’s thoughts & ways are “unsearchable”
—–(Isaiah 55:8,9, Romans 11:33).

—–I see a great deal of penis envy with you. I told you to pray on it. You might wake
—–up swingin’. In the meantime, make my steak. I like it medium well. I have a
—–problem with the same things that the Lord has a problem with. He has a problem
—–with h*mosexualss and l*sbians and says that they must be put to death
—–(Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:25-32, etc.). If you read the Bible instead of acting
—–like you knew something, you would know that you moron.

@ furious styles
I’m being extremely serious now. How much does rihanna pay you to be her e-thug and are there any vacancies? Times are hard and a girl’s gotta survive. Get back at me asap. Thanks

Funny thing is…She isn’t the ONLY person out there saying these things recently. Even though her rant went a bit too far to the left, she does have a point on certain things.

the truth will set you free!!!wake up people

Even if it is a metaphorical song, it’s not a wise metaphor to use for a person of Rhianna’s image…who is constantly trying to attract a new, youunger audience…i just hate the song…it’s stupid

She’s saying this to get attention. I’m going to need to see some PROOF that what she is saying ins true. Beyond that, I doubt she has ever had any real access to the big stars in such a personal way that she would know who/how they worship. It sounds like a case of rumors/gossip that goes on behind the scenes. The people who cannot make it big for whatever reason - lack of talent, lack of mass appeal, bad management, etc. needed to come up with a reason to justify why others can make it and they can’t. The fact that she won’t name names is weak. She’s just on an attention hunt - if you’re so upright and on “the lord’s” side then be courageous and say what’s what. Don’t drop hints and leave out details. It all reminds me of a B movie plot.

YOU people can hate on Tiffany Evans all you want but she is RIGHT. Rihanna is apart of the ILLUMINATI…..THE SAME PEOPLE THAT KILLED MICHAEL JACKSON!

I’d also add that songs are more often metaphors than literal. Just because she is singing about Russian Roulette does not mean that she actually plays or encourages others to play. I think it’s a metaphor for needing to take a chance, make a hard decision and not knowing the outcome. Say for instance, whether to be with CB after the incident or not. It could be RR for her career or for her life.

Wow.Just read some of the comments. Some of you are truly crazy/backwoods. Reminds me of the old times when any new technology was thought to be “evil”and “magic”. Stop sensationalizing everything with religious overtones. I think a lot of “religious” people are closer to the occult than a normal person is - religious people seem to be obsessed with talking about, thinking about, and looking for the devil in everything.

Let’s make a list, guys. I’ll start with ten:

1. Jay-z
2. Beyonce
3. Britney Spears
4. Lady GaGa
5. Kanye West
6. Rihanna
7. Oprah
8. Eminem
9. Diddy
10. Madonna

Isnt it funny how people would rather believe a lie than the naked truth. the truth always hurts! people will take lies over truth any day, but all of a sudden need proof when it comes to the truth. yeah right! even still, you still wouldnt believe it and try to justify it. trust me tiffany is speaking the honest truth. accept is and stop making excuses.

thats why black people will never be respected, americans are dumb, black americans are very dumb. if you come with this conversation to Europe you will be leaded to the nearest therapist, seriously who believes this kind of shit? poor Rihanna, since the age of 17 she’s a devil worshiper? cuz yeah, she has sucess since that age, religious people are so stupid, fuck off and go whine to the church, even if she worships the satan, its her life, she does whatever she wants rofl