CL TOPIC: OWN’S ‘UNFAITHFUL’ FOLLOWS STORIES OF BETRAYAL – WOULD YOU TAKE YOUR HUSBAND BACK AFTER HE CHEATED?

If my woman was to cheat on me ONCE I’d take her back. People are not perfect. When things go wrong people seek attention elsewhere. Ladies just because you think your relationship is perfect doesn’t mean that it is!

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Well said! I agree with you 100%. I’ve been cheated and it’s a horrible feeling to be betrayed by someone you trusted.

my thoughts EXACTLY…i couldn’t let it go in the back of my head..
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I dont think I could stay, it would just be too much to rebuild after all the orchestrated lies. Adulterers are only sorry when they get caught, seems insincere. As if he would still do it if he did not have to stop and that’s not good enough for me to trust, might as well start with someone new, the chances become the same with a stranger after adultery. It would just make me angry that if I have been turning down men that were after me to be faithful to my husband and he did not do the same, it would make me want to indulge in some of those lust and desires I had been resisting in order for me to stay with him after he cheated. I know the so called 2 wrongs dont make a right, but for me that is the only way to make it right if I stay with him, otherwise I would leave and start a new, dont want a liar. Integrity is what you do when no one is looking, not when you get caught. So tired of the everybody makes mistakes, adultery is done purposefully, intentionally because you have to divise lies and secret meetings, etc and that takes much thought. You can still forgive and divorce someone who committed adultery, you just dont desire them anymore because they have been with someone else and want to move on.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! WELL SAID…THATS WOULD SHOULD HAPPEN, NO SECOND CHANCES…JUST MOVE ON. HOPEFULLY HE WILL TREAT THE NEXT WOMAN BETTER!
KUDOS TO YOU SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN sistah. I couldn’t stay especially since I don’t cheat. BOY our relationship would NEVERRRRRR be the same. See too much insecurity would set in, like worrying where he’s at ETC, ETC oh hell nah that’s too much energy. You may feel like you wanna die when you 1st find out but eventually it get’s better.

well they always say nothing last forever and marriages go along with it.

All that is a lie of satan. WHy would God create marriage knowing we COULD not be faithful. You can do what you want to do and that type of reasoning is why men do it. They can be faithful if they want to, not every man or woman cheats, its a lie of satan set out to devalue what God has created because satan is a hater. He tries to belittle and destroy what God has made. Trying to make it seem unrealistic and ridiculous to expect people, men especially, to be faithful. That would mean God created marriage to set us up for failure, knowing it is impossible and then go and write thou shall not commit adultery in the 10 commandments. Why would God tell us not to do so, if we did not have the ability in the first place. Let every man be a liar and God be true. You can be faithful to your spouse if you want to, everything else is an excuse to do what you want to do anyway.

umm ..where does it say that god ‘created’ marriage?? .. good created man and woman … but i dont recall mention of a wedding ceremony in ‘eden’ .. lol .. i’m not saying marriage is bad for whoever wants it, but ppl need to stay realistic in their expectations … pls, dont get angry, just think for yourself .. dont believe the hype, just look around u and see whats really goin on …

Wow… I feel incredibly sorry for females like you. First off I have a feeling I know where your shitty ideals of men come from: you had shitty male role models all your life. If all the dudes (because they aren’t men) in your family are pieces of shit, maybe you should consider raising your son (if you have one or when you have one) into something better. Not only do I feel sorry for you but females like you make me extremely thankful for the people in my life. The educated and mature adults who learned from their mistakes so ensure I don’t follow in their steps and believe in something better. The ones who later talked to me about what to look out for so I don’t end up like you. And thank gosh I didn’t. Word of advice, CHILDREN feel the need to grab everything that pleases their eye but ADULTS know being tempted doesn’t mean you give in. Sorry the “grown folk” in your family couldn’t pass the memo onto you.

Would love to hear what a male CL reader thinks about this comment.
True?
False?
Somewhere in between?

Plumps you need to shut yo ass up with that. She didnt mean any disrespect with her comment and you really felt the need to come back kinda hard. So let me tell you what I think because I think you are delusional. First of all it is perfectly normal for your husband or wife to feel attracted to someone other than your mate. Second, we dont own anyone so we cant control what the other person is feeling or thinking and we will never ever know exactly how they feel either. Third, I’m glad that you have people in your life to love you cause from what it sounds like you man didnt, I bet your the type of woman that forces your man to go to church with your mom and sisters and wont let him hang out with his friends. You probably try to make him into something that he is not because the way you come on here and talk. Face it Bitch when your man is out he is looking at other women. And when you take your self righteous ass to work or to the shop to try to look perfect, he stroking his dick to freaky porn videos cause you are a lame. We are human. I would most gladly forgive my husband but that when the negotiating comes in cause I wanna fuck around sometimes too. I love my man but I would be lying if I didnt have a desire for another man from time to time. :-/

@One Systa

You have a realistic mentality that the vast majority of black females lack, which is why the vast majority of black females are dealing with psychological and spiritual issues that result in addiction to anti-depressants, whoredom, and lesbianism. Their embracing of the erroneous belief (taught by the caucasian) that they are “equal to men” is why they are so unhappy. You accurately broke down why “marriage” as an institution is no longer relevant. The roles have been confused and the woman has been allowed to usurp authority. Now she lusts for the marriage ceremony, not the actual role of wife, and furthermore they have been programmed through Disney movies and other mind control programs (i.e. women-led talk shows) to believe that they are above reproach and men were put on the earth to make their “dreams come true”.

@CARAMELAPPLE

I don’t think that you’re knowledgeable enough to know the difference between a “lie of Satan” and the truth of the Most High. Man was put on the earth to be “faithful” to the Most High and Christ. He is to love and protect his wife, and be ready to give his life for her (Eph 5:22-25), but “faith” is for the Lord. That is part of the problem though. You women want to be worshiped, which is why you vex yourselves with your own simplicity. The woman was set up to be “faithful” to the man. If you were a real “Christian” you would know that the man is the head of the woman (I Cor 11:3). The Lord tells us why marriage was created; so that the man would have an “helpmeet” (an assistant). The words “woman” or “wife” are interchangeable, and they both mean “servant”. The Lord also tells us that a man can, and probably should, have MORE THAN ONE WOMAN (Deut 21:15, II Sam 5:13, etc.).

@PLUMPS

A female cannot raise a man, she can only raise a male. That is part of the major problem in the black “community”. Bitter, simple black females are playing Dr.Frankenstein on these young boys and raising them to be monsters (i.e. a male in the image of a female). This is why h*mosexuality, and just overall foolishness and weakness has skyrocketed amongst the black male. A female cannot teach a boy anything other than how to be subservient, or regurgitate to the child what she was shown by those in power. All other indigenous races understand that a man not only has the right to multiple wives, but also that the women and children are HIS PROPERTY. That is why, despite the idiotic belief to the contrary, there is no woman with her own last name. The last name denotes paternal lineage and seedline (Numbers 1:18, Job 8:8).

@ Judah ‘and probably should, have MORE THAN ONE WOMAN (Deut 21:15, II Sam 5:13, etc.)’ So adultery that’s a fallacy I guess?

@ Judah Adultery is when a married person has illicit sexual relations with someone who is not that person’s spouse. It is a breaking of the marriage covenant and is a great sin. Adultery is forbidden in the 10 Commandments (Exo. 20:14; Deut. 5:18; Lev. 18:20). In the Old Testament it was punishable by death (Deut. 22:22-24) and was intended to be carried out in the case of the adulterous woman in John 7:53-8:11.

In the New Testament it is mentioned in numerous verses such as Matt. 5:27-28, 32; 19:18; Luke 16:18; Rom. 2:22; 1 Cor. 6:9; Heb. 13:4, etc.

@BEYONDGOSSIP.COM

Miss, you’re cutting yourself, and you’re not even intelligent enough to understand that. Google can’t help you in a real debate. You either know what you’re talking about or you don’t (Prov 9:13). “Adultery” is when a man sleeps with ANOTHER MAN’S woman, not with another woman. It was punishable by death to that man and woman who committed adultery against that woman’s HUSBAND (Deut 22:23,24). If the woman were not married, intercourse would’ve just made her an additional wife, even in instances of rape (Deut 22:28,29), but that man would’ve had to deal with the wrath of the woman’s father and brothers (Gen 34th chap). If “adultery” is sleeping with women “outside the marriage”, why did men have multiple wives lol? If divorce occurred, she left with NOTHING (Exodus 21:9-11). Do you grasp this? A wife is the PROPERTY of her husband. Women had no right to ownership of a man, as they do in this perverted society, which is why it is advisable to all men not to sign any contracts relating to so-called “marriage”. This is also why a female is not supposed to try to teach the scriptures (I Cor 14:33-35, I Tim 2:9-15). It is out of order (I Cor 14:40). That is the real problem with many of you black females today. You assume a “spirituality” that you DO NOT HAVE.

@ Judah, misuse of scripture to fit lies. God said wife, not wives. ……love his WIFE( not wives) even as himself: and the wife see that she reverence her husband-Ephesians 5:33.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh- Ephesians 5:31

Judah you are pushing herosy

@CARAMELAPPLE

Miss, I see that this is a very emotional issue for you, and you clearly have control issues, both over yourself and over males and young boys. Many wicked black females attempt to use the Bible and the effeminized teachings of the “Christian church” to establish some form of spiritual control over males lol (Isaiah 3:12). Now let’s examine what you stated and verify how idiotic you are (Proverbs 9:13). The citation of Ephesians 5:22-25 had nothing to do with the multiple wives issue lol. It was in reference to how a man should treat his wife. This is why Paul ended the chapter by stating that the husband/wife dynamic was akin to Christ and the church (the elect of the Israelites). It was allegorical smdh. The scripture will never say “wives” when speaking in reference to marriage, because it was AT A MAN’S DISCRETION how many wives he had. Let me ask you a question…..was multiple wives a sin? David was a man beloved of the Lord and had MULTIPLE WIVES (II Sam 5:13). He did not sin until he slept with ANOTHER MAN’S wife (II Sam 12:1-23). Is this registering or not lol? How about Abraham and Jacob? They had wives and concubines. Were they wicked? Multiple wives is written in the law (Exodus 21:10,11, Deut 21:15). Is the law wicked? Paul tells the bishops that they should only have ONE WIFE (I Tim 3:2), because they must concentrate on the flock. Doesn’t this obviously mean that men had multiple wives, if Paul had to make this specification lol? What’s funny is that in the last 2,000 years, all of a sudden, you women are so spiritual and can break down scriptures and teach men. When did this change occur? Either you’re fooling yourselves or you’re fooling yourselves. One of the two….

Well….it tickles me how some people use scriptures to support bs…smh. People pick and pull scriptures and turn thme around, flip flop the meaning because they did’t read the verses before nor the ones after. I totally agree with Carmelapple and Plumps. Why make excuses for adultery because everyone is doing it and being faithful to your husband or wife seems impossible or hopeless these days, so lets make an exception to the rule and just accept the fact he will cheat or have more than one woman! And even some christians take God’s forgiveness in vain standing on the belief that since God is a forgiving God he knows my heart and I will just repent and move on because He knows I’m not perfect and I will mess up. But our actions have consequences is what we forget. He will forgive us..no doubt..but we will pay one way or another. You spouse doesn’t have to get revenge because the Lord will handle it. Whether i be loss of a job because you “side piece” came up to your place of employment and acted a damn fool…you catch and STD..you slip up and become pregnant or get someone pregnant outside of your marriage. They are all consequences. All that to say…some men do think like the men in One_systa’s life and some men think other wise. Everything isn’t for everybody

Love it! So true! You could not have said it any better!

@GEMINI81

Oh good, another black female Bible scholar……please pull some scriptures and edify me as to what the Bible is REALLY saying lol……other than that miss, your other comments were relatively relevant and on point. The Most High does bring a chastening on people. In regards to the Bible though, you do not know what your talking about, but it is not your fault. It is this society that has been crafted for you and has warped your sense of reality.

I totally agree….I get bored just like men do…Is it wrong to desire something new other than my husband…No? Remember were all human beings with thoughts, feelings and emotions. I have friends who take their spouses for granted and wonder why its so easy for someone to creep in. What really gets me is when women become romantic and freaky with thier man….only when they suspect or find out their man is cheating….That shit right there kills me. Im not saying cheating is right….but the partner should take some blame.

I feel you, the relationship will NEVER be the same after I found out my boyfriend/husband/partner cheated!

THANK YOU!! “Cheataration” is not just men cheating on women. It can go both ways!

Very valid point.
I just went w/ posing the question to the majority of CL readers.
Men are more than welcome to chime in ^_^

Why is that the correct answer?

NVM…staying for the worst and sh*t I guess.

@anon- haha yes, marraige vows say ‘for better or worse etc etc till death do we part.’
Of course one can argue that when a man/cheats on you they have broken the vow. I don’t know , I think it’s a hard question because you don’t know till you’ve been in it you know.

“MEN/MANKIND” (PREACHER/REV) SAID MARRIAGE IS “FOR BETTER OR FOR WORST” BUT THATS NOT IN THE BIBLE. GOD/THE BIBLE SAYS…. ADULTERY / FORNICATION IS A PASS FOR DIVORCE.

GOD TOLD MEN TO LOVE YOUR WIFE AS CHRIST LOVE THE CHURCH. CHIRST DID NOT CHEAT ON THE CHURCH OR ABUSE THE CHURCH, CHIRST TOOK CARE OF THE CHURCH AND DIED FOR US. GOD DONT WANT YOU BEING ABUSED OR MISUSED BY ANYONE BUT ESPECAILLY NOT YOUR HUBBY. HUSBANDS ARE SUPPOSE TO EXPRESS GODS LOVE FOR US….THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO LOVE HONOR AND RESPECT US. WHERE IS LOVE HONOR AND RESPECT IN CHEATING???? SO NO IF YOUR HUBBY BREAKS VOWS (CHEATING ABUSIVE PHYSICALLY/ VERBALLY ….YOU HAVE GODS BLESSING TO LEAVE. WOULD YOU TELL YOUR DAUGHTER TO STAY WITH A MAN CHEATING ON HER??? I WOULDNT… IF SHE WANTED TO IT WOULD BE UP TO HER….BUT I WOULDNT TELL HER TO STAY WITH HIM.

“… it depends on the situation” indeed. What about those persons with mental illnesses? Say for instance bi-polar disorder. Granted, the action(s) are still the same, but how much does INTENT play into people afflicted with this disorder? Meaning, is the severity of their cheating lessened?

GET YOUR OWN MONEY, PAY YOUR OWN BILLS AND GET YOUR SELF RESPECT BACK!!! YOU WILL FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF. WHEN HE STEPS OUT AND CHEATS HE IS SAYING “YOUR NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO KEEP MY FULL ATTENTION/ BUT THIS CHICK RIGHT HERE MAY BE THE ONE” SO IN A SENSE HE IS STILL LOOKING AND WHEN HE FINDS WHAT HE LOOKING FOR AND KICKS YOU TO THE CURB…YOU GONE FEEL REALLY DUMB…. LEAVE HIM ALONE BEFORE HE BRING YOU BACK AIDS/HIV AND BABY MOMMA DRAMA. SO I HOPE THAT YOUR SITUATION IS TEMPORARY UNTIL YOU CAN DO FOR YOURSELF. PLEASE KNOW THAT WHEN HE SLEEPS WITH YOU… HE THINKING ABOUT THE OTHER WOMEN HES BEEN WITH. HE AINT THINKING BOUT YOU. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

R U serious, if he’s paying your bills, come on. What if he brings you back a disease, that money can’t cure then what?

P.S – I like these kind of posts (question and answer posts). You guys should do them more often.

YOU ARE 100% CORRECT THATS EXACTLY WHAT ITS LIKE BUT MOST WOMEN WILL GO THRU THAT BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CANNOT DO BETTER. THEY ONLY END UP MISERABLE AND LACK SELF RESPECT.

WOW! You hit the nail right on the head with this one, this would definately be me!!!!

There is a vast diff. in finding someone attractive and being attracted to that person and it is NOT normal. Women have got to stop being so stupid and hard up on keeping a man, thus putting up with bullcrap that’s past off as “normal.” Ain’t nothing “normal” about a man claiming he is in love or loves the wife or girlfriend he is with, yet he is lusting after someone else. Cheating starts in the mind…and if a man tells me that it’s normal for him to lust and want to have sex with every beautiful woman that he sees, I would never ever get involved with him on a serious level because, in my mind he isn’t marriage material and I wouldn’t want to marry him or have kids with him or build a life with him. No way, no how. It’s strange because, how many men do you hear going around making excuses for why women cheat or step outside the marriage or relationship? A man ain’t in no more need than a woman to have sex or procreate so that’s bullcrap and the Bible nor does science support this theory. It’s just something that has been past down from generation to generation and has been accepted as the “norm” for me because, this notion was created by men. Now, there was a time when men had more than one woman, but it had nothing to do with it being biological. The Bible tells us that there is only ONE FLESH among men and women, so the same urges and sex thoughts men have, women have them too. Cheating is a choice….it has nothing to do with biology or feeling the need to procreate. I have been cheated on before and I can tell you right now, that after that ordeal, I would not stay with a cheater nor would I give him another chance…if he changes for the better, good for him, but I am moving on.

YOU SOUND LIKE THE TYPE OF WOMEN WHO WOULD FORGIVE YOUR HUBBY FOR MOLESTING YOUR CHILDREN….OR YOU WOULD BELEIVE YOUR HUBBY OVER YOU DAUGHTER IF SHE SAID HE MOLESTED HER. WOMEN LIKE YOU LET MEN LEAD THEM TO DESTRUCTION BECAUSE YOU ARE SO EAGER TO BE WITH A MAN/HUBBY NO MATTER WHAT… AND END UP BEING MARRIED TO CHILD MOLESTERS AND DOWN LOW MEN/EDDIE LONGS. YOU SOUND SOOOO IGNORANT! EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS DIVORCE DUE TO FORNICATION OR ADULTRY IS ACCEPTABLE. YOU DONT EVER PUT ANYBODY BEFORE YOUR WELL BEING. IF A MAN IS CHEATING ON YOU HE DOESNT RESPECT YOU.
AND WHEN YOU STAY WITH HIM AFTER CHEATING YOU JUST CONFRIMED FOR YOU THAT YOU DONT RESPECT YOURSELF. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE SHOULD BE TOWARDS CHILDREN… NOT TOWARDS GROWN PEOPLE WHO INTENTIONALLY DECIVE AND LIE TO YOU…. PLEASE GET A CLUE OR YOU WILL ALWAYS BE CHEATED ON AND MISUSED AND ABUSED.

i understand the point u r trying to make, but what about the men who are just dogs by nature? you know the type, the men who will sleep with any damn body. I dont think that u can “train” those type of men cause whether u stalk him or not he is going to do what the hell he want to do when he wants to do it. Remember people will change when “they” want to change, but to avoid all the hurt and pain u should not get with somebody thats triflin and good for nothing. Thats why i say if he treats u like u some damn body, provides for u and the family, still loving u the same, give the bastard a chance if he cheat.

YOU PLAY TO MANY GAMES…FOR WHOS SAKE????
THE BEST WAY TO TEACH A MAN IS TO LEAVE HIS AZZ ALONE. HOPEFULLY HE LEARNS THE LESSON THE FIRST TIME AND WILL BE A BETTER SPOUSE FOR THE NEXT ONE. IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN I CAN UNDERSTAND POSSIBLY GIVING A SECOND CHANCE BUT IF HE MESSES UP A SECOND TIME LEAVE HIS ASS…. ESPECAILL IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN GIRLS OR BOYS BUT GIRLS ESPECIALLY……SO THEY CAN LEARN THAT CHEATING IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND MOST DEF A DEAL BREAKER.

What does ego have to do with leaving a situation where one has been cheated on and they’re trust betrayed? So because, I would never stay with a cheater, I am egotistical? And I have been cheated on before and he didn’t have a “good” or “logical” reason to…I was a great woman to him and everything. I can see if he cheated because, I as a complete ass of a woman and he loved me and didn’t want to leave me, but he needed emotional support, thus looking elsewhere, that I can understand and probably be willing to give him another chance, but if I know I didn’t do anything wrong and you cheated anyways…then hell no…no more chances, I can forgive, but I am not going to forget and I am not going to allow you another chance to stab me in the back twice.

true !can’t teach an old dog new tricks! And ladies you can’t change a man , only God can.

LOL

I see what you’re saying that there is a distinction between a 1 time indiscretion and someone who is leading a double life (you know, you find out her has a woman in another town that he’s been wifing up on the side for years)

Honestly though, till you’ve been in the situation it’s hard to say.My sister who is now seperated from her hubby found out about her hubby having a fling while they were engaged. They were married when she found out, so after prayer and counselling she resolved it. After all it was in the past right?

Well, seems like he had a fling with a co worker right after they got married. Okaaaay. Come to find out that he has had several flings like that. They’ve been married close to 2 years, dated all through college and 3 years after that.

His excuse was he didn’t get to live the ‘college’ life and it’s not that he doesnt love my sister, he just wants the excitement.

Anyway, the point of that story is- cheating is like when a man hits you- if he did it once, he might do it again. Now say you do forgive him for that one indiscretion, can you honestly say you will fully trust him again?
A marraige without trust, and always waiting for the next shoe to drop will drive you crazy in no time.

GIRL GET A CLUE……MEN ALWAYS AND ONLY CHEAT FOR SEX!!! WOMEN MAY HAVE OTHER EMOTIONAL REASONS FOR CHEAT… MEN DONT THINK LIKE WOMEN SO PLEASE STOP IT… YOU CAN BE A GREAT WOMEN, LOOK GOOD, COOK, CLEANING SEXING YOUR MAN EVERY NIGHT RUBBING HIS HEAD..LADY IN THE STREETS FREAK IN THE BEDROOM , WATHCHING SPORTS WITH HIM ATTENTIVE ALL THAT. BUT IF YOUR MAN FINDS HIMSELF ATTRACTED TO ANOTHER WOMEN AND THE OTHER WOMAN IS WILLING AND ABLE…HE WILL HIT. SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE!

@HEREUGO

I agree with that lol.

@HEREUGO

You’re right. Many women do all of this, and are still shown no love from their husbands. Well, the bible does say that it is better for one to remain single anyways (1 Cor 7:34, 35, 39, 40). Looks like black women knew what was up already lol. Anywho, I still don’t buy this “It’s in a man’s nature to cheat” story. It is implying that men are not capable of exercising self-control (which is a terrible thing). Esau sold his birth right for a bowl of stew (lol) all in the name of hunger. So why would a man destroy the sanctity of marriage all for quick meal (another “woman”). It makes me question who really is the “weaker” vessel (not throwing shade or anything).

@CHEERS

This is why topics like this are very good. They expose the multitude of demons that many of you females have on you lol (Ecclesiastes 7:26-28). The Bible does not say that it is “better for women to remain single”. Paul stated that it is better to marry than to burn (I Cor 7:9). This is what the vast majority of you black women are doing; secretly burning in your lust, which is why you are purchasing vibrators, sex toys, playing the wh*re, and converting to l*sbianism (Romans 1:25-32). Due to the fact that the church of Corinth was enduring a scandal of a man marrying his father’s wife (possibly his own mother, the scripture does not specify) Paul was stating that the men and women should concentrate on the truth of the Most High, and not make the church a sexual swap meet, which is what you see in many of these churches where the so-called pastors and heterosexual male congregants pass these whorish black women around like blunts. As a matter of fact, Paul comes back and tells us that the young women SHOULD marry, because if not, they fall into mischief (I Tim 5:11-15). It is not in a man’s nature to “cheat”. It is in a man’s nature to have multiple women. This is not a complex premise at all. You should’ve been around to tell Jacob, David, or Abraham that they could not have more than one woman because that would be a sign of “weaknes”. I wonder how they would have responded lol. There is no “sanctity” in marriage in this society. Bowing down on one knee to and giving a “ring” to a woman is PAGAN. The wearing of black and white at the wedding is PAGAN. A man signing a contract that will give the woman power over him, and the state authority over him as a 3rd party is idiotic. Marriage in this society has NOTHING to do with the scriptures. Esau sold his birthright because it was pre-ordained for Jacob to get it smh. If you question who the weaker vessel is, you question the Bible because the scriptures tell us who the weaker vessel is (I Pet 3:7).

@JUDAH

These topics are very good because it shows why so many have ceased from reading the bible. There are too many interpretations of it. How is viewing infidelity in a bad light considered demonic? Well you do have some points. And since when did marriage become pagan when it’s in the bible? So what would you say to the many black women who have children out of “wedlock”? Isn’t that wrong?

Besides, what is the proper way in which a marriage should be performed? The bible doesn’t mention any specific way.

@CHEERS

ALL my points are “good”, not some of my points lol. So many people have ceased from reading the scriptures because they are not being taught the correct things, the correct way (Isaiah 60:1,2). They ARE NOT “too many interpretations” of the Bible. You either know what you’re talking about, or you don’t (II Pet 1:20,21). The discussion is not “infidelity”. It is a man’s right to have multiple wives, and there is nothing wrong with it. This society has gotten the black man to acknowledge and accept strawman precepts, and now he must adhere to b.s. I did not say that marriage is pagan. Are you paying attention to what you are reading miss? Marriage in the scriptures states that a man pays a dowry to that woman’s father (Ex 22:17, I Sam 18:25, etc.), they become espoused (II Sam 3:14,Matt 1:18, etc.), and then they have the ceremony (John 2:1,2), in which ownership of the VIRGIN is passed to the husband. The marriage is sealed with intercourse (Deut 22:13-21). If they chose to, they had a banquet and a party or what have you, but what sealed the espousal was the dowry, and what sealed the marriage was intercourse. Why do you think even up until today, you have the saying of the father “giving his daughter away”? Today it is just a ritual, but it hearkened back to a time when that is literally what occurred. All marriages back then were ARRANGED. It wasn’t some female coming up with a ridiculous list of requirements that make a “good man” for her “big day” lol. What amazes me is that dudes go along with that nonsense. In regards to women having children “out of wedlock”, that is between them, their men, and the Most High, because no one is getting married appropriately. Mary herself conceived THROUGH SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH JOSEPH Christ before the ceremony.

Mary did not conceive Christ through intercourse (???) But any who, I can understand how marriages are to be performed, because that is the way it is still being done in my culture. So I can’t argue with that (not that I was arguing anyways). Arranged marriages can only work in a perfect world. If women were to be subject to men in that manner, a list of some requirements WOULD need to be met. So many of you men are quietly leading us into destruction, (Matt 7:13) so we should at least know what we are getting ourselves into. Unfortunately, this world is confusing and is not for all to understand. I hope God makes some provision for those who are being led astray to come to know the truth about him. There are too many of us (Matt 9:36-38).

@CHEERS

Yes, Joseph and Mary had intercourse to conceive Christ. The so-called “Virgin Birth” is another lie that is taught in these cults and churches. Christ is known as the “Son of David” because his SEEDLINE goes back to David. Why do you think his geneaology was given in Matthew the 1st chapter THROUGH Joseph? The Bible tells us in numerous scriptures that IN THE FLESH, Christ was the Son of David through Joseph (Acts 2:30,Rom 1:3, etc.). He was the Son of God through the spirit. The so-called “Virgin Birth” doctrine was intermingled into the church teachings to continue the worship of the “Queen of Heaven” a.k.a. the feminine principle, which is the fountain of the feminist movement today. This is why simpletons like you worship your own “womanhood”. When you actually READ THE BIBLE, you’ll see that on many occasions, Christ either dismissed his mother, her importance, or outright rebuked her (Matt 12:46-50, Luke 2:43-52, Luke 11:27,28, John 2:1-5). How come he didn’t say, “Let’s all bow down to my mother, the blessed virgin…” lol? Mary was just a regular woman who was told that she would be giving birth to a chosen man of God, the same way Sarah was with Isaac, Manaoh was with Samson, and Hannah was with Samuel. If you can understand how marriages are to be performed, why the hell did you ask me lol?…..and YOU WERE arguing, and you’re still arguing. Marriages were arranged for thousands of years, and the world has never been “perfect”, so that’s more b.s. from you smdh. Your problem, or one of them, is that you’ve been hanging around these black women of the captivity. They rub their simplicity and negativity off on the other women. Furthermore, you are adhering to the feminist principles of the white woman. This is why I deduced from the start that you are very confused. Who are you to stipulate by what what manner a woman should be subject to a man?? Is that scriptural?? You females have no wisdom to add to a real man. A male may fall for you lines of b.s., but not a man. This is why I encourage men to actually read the Bible, because you females read parts of it and break it down as your master, the white man, tells you to. The men that are leading you into destruction is the white man. He is in leadership. The black male is currently being led by you women (Isaiah 3:12)….so YOU are the ones leading blacks into destruction.

If you think I am arguing then I apologize. You’re right, I am confused (or “petered” out). That is why I am asking questions (lightbulb). Besides God took away intelligence and wisdom away from women (forgot the scripture). Why would I celebrate womanhood?? What is there to be celebrated (other than giving birth)? The feminist movement did nothing for women other than to simply mess up a comfortable way of living for many of us. The only thing we get to do now, that we weren’t able to do before, is vote (which I don’t do anyways). We aren’t getting paid as much as men, plus now we have to work. So screw them (excuse my Canadian French). Plus, the feminist movement only supports and benefits white women, not us.

How am I leading blacks into destruction when I am trying to understand the bible correctly in order to tell others about it? But you take it as though I want to “teach” when I simply would like to just speak to others about it, that’s all lol. Well, I guess you win (bet you hear that a lot) lol.

Adultery, according to the Bible, is when a man sleeps with another man’s wife…..NOT when he sleeps with another woman and deals with her accordingly.

ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE IF A MAKE LOOKS AT ANOTHER WOMAN AND LUST FOR HER IN HIS HEART HE HAS ALREADY COMMITED FORNICATION. GOD SAID WE CAN LEAVE IF MEN / WOMEN CHEAT BECAUSE ITS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL BEING CHEATED ON. ITS UP TO US…BUT EXPERIENCE TEACHES US THAT ONCE A CHEATER ALWAYS A CHEATER. CHEATERS DONT STOP CHEATING THEY JUST GET BETTER AT IT. IF A MAN CHEATS ON YOU…. THATS NOT THE MAN FOR YOU…GOD WOULDNT SEND YOU SOMEONE THAT WOULD CHEAT ON YOU OR DO YOU WRONG…. SO DROP THE ERROR AND MAKE ROOM N YOUR LIFE FOR THE RIGHT MAN. ITS BETTER LIVING ALONE THEN WITH A CHEATING MAN. AT LEAST IF YOU LEAVE A CHEATER YOU CAN FIND HAPPINESS AND PEACE ALONE. BUT WITH A MAN CHEATING…. IT WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND… AND THE FIRST TIME IS THE HARDEST SO WHATS TO STOP HIM FROM DOING IT AGAIN??? NOTHING! HE WILL.

@HEREUGO

According to the Bible if you look at another man’s WIFE with lust in your heart, you have committed ADULTERY (Matt 5:28). The word used is “woman”, but it’s talking about “wife” because those words were interchangeably used. The word in the Greek is “gyne”, and it’s the same word Christ used which was translated as “wife” in Matt 5:31. This is what I mean when I say, most of you sisters just don’t get it lol. This is a very basic premise, and I suppose that you are not entirely to blame because you are being mistaught by your mothers and that Christian church, but this is not rocket science. When you look at someone of the opposite sex, obviously you find them either attractive or unattractive, so what does that mean? Everyone must be an adulterer and adulteress then, since puberty based on your logic. Give me a break. It is speaking about lusting over another man’s wife, which is a breaking of the 10th commandment (Exodus 20:17, Romans 7:7, etc.). Notice in Exodue 20:17, the scripture states, “thou shalt not COVET (lust after) thy neighbor’s WIFE (and other PROPERTY)….”.

@Z

Brotha, the black man must take back on the ruling class mentality that he needs to return to MANHOOD, not malehood. Some of these females are on here speaking of “prayer partners” and how a man “cheated” on them. It is good for a man to pray with his woman, but he should be TEACHING her as well so that she recognizes that HE is the head, not some satanic “pastor” (Jer 23:1,2). The black man has been relegated to someone that sneaks around because he has subscribed to a doctrine that minimizes him, that being that a woman is “equal” to him. Essentially, he has been trained to do something that is against his nature, like training a lion to eat grass.

I think most men haven’t commented because the majority of them have all cheated lol

James you must remember your wife is totally different from your girlfriend. You have taken a vow before God for better or worse with your wife. I think a lot of people really need to know the difference. I could understand you might have a hard time forgiving your wife. What if that was the first and only time she cheated on you and she is very remorseful? You would give up your marriage for one mistake? Its a different story if she brings you back a disease or get pregnant by the other man. All hope still isn’t lost, but that would be a very hard decision. Even if the roles were reversed it would be hard on the woman too. We know that a lot of men have outside children and the wives have forgiven them. Now, my point is this when it comes to outside children…….if you can’t accept the children then its no need to continue the marriage. Children are innocent and they didn’t ask to be born into a bad situation. My husband cheated and I forgave him, why wouldn’t I? No one is perfect and I wasn’t about to give up a good thang over one dumb mistake. It was just as much my fault as his. I didn’t listen to him, always brushed him off at night, lived at bingo. Maybe if I was more tuned into my husband’s needs, the cheating wouldn’t have happened. I haven’t come across anyone yet that have had anything bad to say about him. I know he is a good decent loving kind husband and father. This is for the ladies, if you have a good man, treat him right and love him. Because its always the females that smile in you face that will be the ones to move in that space you have created. Believe me James some people are so slick and conniving, before you know it you will be nakkid,lol. Yes cheating causes alot of hurt and pain…………..but love can cure all of that.

@CHEERS

Smdh….how can a man “cheat” unless he’s taking a test? Maybe that term is revelatory, because when one reads the scriptures, it is clear that the female was put on the earth to test men lol. The issue is not what the woman is willing to tolerate, because a woman is not on a man’s level to dictate anything or stipulate anything according to the scripture. Women in other countries and cultures that acknowledge and understand that the woman was put on the earth to be a wife have no problem with the arrangement until the caucasian comes with his lies, the same way that Eve had no problem until Satan came with his lies. The woman is always the main vehicle used to push confusion because, again, women are programmed to respond to everything emotionally and have no sense of order. This is why the man must establish order, and it is why Christ is the head of the man, and NOT the woman (I Cor 11:3). The woman has NO PLACE speaking on spiritual matters because the Lord is not dealing with her directly (I Pet 3:7). That is why you’re “naturally appalled” by “infidelity” lol. The woman is naturally inclined to love Caesar’s kingdom, which is why Christ said to “Remember Lot’s wife” (Luke 17:34). This is meant too show that the woman will say and do anything to maintain her master’s kingdom. When it is being destroyed, she will look back and want to stay, thus being destroyed herself. That is why MEN must remember that and not take what females say seriously. The black woman has accrued much in Satan’s kingdom…..

@JUDAH

I’m confused. So if the Lord isn’t dealing with women directly, that means we are not held under obligation to the bible and its commandments. So should I cease reading the bible (since it is not meant for us)? Also, prayer would have to stop also, correct? If women are not required to teach/preach (in any way or form) why would his holy spirit be given as it says in Joel 2:28,29 and Acts 2:17,18. Psalms 68:11 says that the women telling the good news would be a large multitude (depending on your translation/version of the bible). Any answers? (I am in no way trying to be argumentative, just asking some questions).

Lastly, if we are put on earth to “test” men and cause confusion (I thought we were complements/helpers), we would most likely be abolished in the future, since our presence would no longer be needed, correct? Thank you in advance.

@CHEERS

I agree, you are confused. That’s why you came at me with that Jehovah’s Witness nonsense about the 12 tribes being gathered in 1914 lol. You thought I forgot about that lol? In all seriousness; you can and should read the Bible, but the Lord is not dealing with the women, meaning He does not give the understanding of the scriptures to women, or all men for that matter. THAT IS WHY THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN. The understanding of the Bible was given to the Lamb, and he gave it to the chosen MEN of Israel (Proverbs 8:4, Ezek 34:31, Matt 20:16, etc.). Many of our women will be destroyed here in this extension of the fourth kingdom because they love this kingdom. They will be destroyed by the great thermonuclear destruction of WWIII and the concurrent Second Coming of Christ (Isaiah 4:4). The woman was put on the earth to be a helpmeet, but due to the disobedience of Adam, she has been allowed to rebel. In addition to that, due to the fact that the black man has rebelled against the scriptures, the women have been allowed to rebel (Hosea 4:13,14).

First off Psalms 68:11 is in reference to an ARMY lol. Women are not in the army of the Lord. The possession of the Lord is the man, and they are His army (Num 1:2-4). The women and children are the possession of the man. Joel 2:27.28 is speaking of the spirit of PROPHECY, not teaching. Those are two different vocations (I Cor 12:28). To “prophesy” is to speak under the divine guidance of the Most High, EXACTLY as the message is delivered. A prophet is simply a divine messenger (Prov 25:13). A “teacher” is one that understands and can interpret the scriptures or prophecies for others to understand (Nehemiah 8:8, II Chr 17:8,9, Acts 8:27-31, etc.). A woman CANNOT TEACH (I Cor 14:33-35, I Tim 2:9-15), but she COULD (in the ancient time) prophesy (II Kings 22:14-19). The prophets and prophetesses were in existence before the falling away of Israel (II Thes 2:3). The Lord has taken away the divine vision now. There are no prophets, and THERE CERTAINLY are no prophetesses (Jer 23:16-40).

@Judah….spirituality lies in us ALL, you have a point when you refer to the bible being relatable to men and men being able to teach the scriptures. Men wrote the bible, therefore the idealogy of masculinity and needing control resignates through the bibles scriptures, remember the bible is the same book that was taught to slaves and made them to believe the slave master was ‘god’ and in control. The bible is a control mechanism designed to create structure in society and written by men in mans point of view. I totally get where you are going with the man being the head and being in control and having his share of women as long as he could care for them,,,,but do not get it twisted….Spirituality is the basis of religion but religion is not the basis of spirituality, oneness is the basis of spirituality and it does not take a certain sex to be connected and to be one with the creator.

@JUDAH
Why be so harsh? If I’m confused, don’t blame me for it. Blame the “men” who were instructed by God to teach us the truth. We can only repeat what you tell us, remember? If we women have gone this far so as to be confused, then men have been slacking with the work the Lord has entrusted them with. All things start from men first, not us.
I never said the 12 tribes were gathered in 1914. I said that was when Satan was hurled down to earth. Besides, how are you certain that your teachings are the correct interpretation? You could be one of the many the bible speaks about in Acts 2:30 and 2 Pet. 2:1, 3.
(Since you make mention of Israel) I thought the Israelites were no longer the chosen group. Why isn’t the temple in Jerusalem (which signified God’s covenant between the Israelites) still in existence? If you go there today, there is a mosque there now. He also says that he has disowned Israel in Acts. And I hope those dudes that camp at the train stations in purple robes cursing everyone out and calling women h*es aren’t some form of the real modern day “Israelites.” If so, they need to read past the Hebrew scriptures and into Ephesians 4: 29, 31. With the way they speak to people, they are doing more harm than good, plus they wear dreads. But anyways…

@CHEERS

I’m not being harsh lol. I could easily have been harsh seeing as you tried to set me up by saying that I was stating that a woman shouldn’t pray when the scriptures clearly tell us that she should (I Cor 11:5). I was joking which is why I subsequently said “In all seriousness”. You’re right, the males have been slacking and good MEN are hard to find, but that is prophecy (Prov 28:12, Isaiah 13:12). I know that what I am saying is correct because I can qualify my comments through scripture, history, and prophecy. How can the caucasian man teach the Bible when he passes laws and governs a society that is contrary to the Bible? How can the sisters be ambassadors when the Bible tells you that a woman can not teach? How can the Christian church be the truth when they practice pagan customs? When you stick to the scriptures to the best of your ability, that’s how you come closer to God. The Israelites will ALWAYS be God’s CHOSEN (Jeremiah 31:35, Matt 15:24, Luke 1:68-80, Romans 9:4, 11:1,2, etc.). The temple has been destroyed because prophecy had to be fulfilled (Matt 24:1,2). The mosque was built over it because Jerusalem had to be trodden down of the Gentiles until Christ’s Second Coming (Ezekiel 36:1-7, Luke 21:24, Rev 11:1,2, etc.). What scripture in Acts tells us that the Most High “disowned” Israel??? The book of Acts tells us that Christ came here FOR ISRAEL (Acts 5:31, 24:14, 26:6, 28:20, etc.). I don’t know what men you’re referring to in purple robes, but understand that when the prophets spoke, they always spoke of death and destruction (Jer 28:8,9). They always rebuked the people sharply (Prov 27:5, II Tim 3:16). Why should anyone “read past the Hebrew scriptures”??? Because they offend you (Matt 11:6)? Doesn’t Christ say that to believe on him, you MUST believe on the words of Moses (John 5:41-47)? Doesn’t Christ say that he is the Word (John 1:1) and he comes in the VOLUME of the BOOK (Hebrews 10:7)? If all they’re doing is calling women “h*es”, then the females are getting off easy. The black woman has become a big wh*re in America, and it is why she has so many demons on her (Amos 7:17, Luke 8:2, etc.). If the men wore dreads, that is off, because that is a heathen custom. They should try not to use so-called “curse words” either…..

@LOVE JAH

I’ve dealt with you before. I have no time for your simplicity miss. “Spirituality” is the knowledge of the scriptures and their application to the best of your ability (Romans 7:14). You did not cite one scripture in your diatribe. You sisters deal strictly with your emotions and the lust of your eyes. If you want to have a real conversation, cite scripture or exit stage left.

@JUDAH

I didn’t say that you said we shouldn’t pray. I was implying that would be the case since we’re not being “dealt” with directly. So I figured there would be no need to. Also, when I said those men should read past the Hebrew scriptures, I meant that literally. They should read “past” the Hebrew scriptures and into the Greek books were I stated that scripture. Not that they should ignore it. And if you think black women are the biggest whores on the planet (I don’t know if you mean through actions or mentality) then I wonder what Asian women would be called. The only difference with them is that they have a very protective culture. Past that, they have a very whorish like mentality. Their whole world centers around “pleasuring” men. They are the real definition of whores. They marry outside of their race more than any other women, they marry solely for benefits (money, status), and they have the highest population of prostitutes in their countries. But you would NEVER hear their men call them anything outside of their names. I wonder why. Being a whore is all in the mind, not in actions. Even if black women were whores (like you say) no one acts outside of God’s will (like you said). So why get mad?? lol Some black women are only fulfilling prophecy. It has to happen.

But those men should really stop cursing. It was one of the reasons I deterred from listening to them. Until I saw them on youtube (lol) and realized what they were trying to say all along. You can discipline people without insulting and screaming. That makes matters worse.

@CHEERS

I see that you’re about petered out because you are no longer citing scriptures lol. The women of our nation can and should pray but they must deal with the Most High and Christ through a man. That is why Paul stated that they are saved through child-bearing (I Tim 2:14,15). I know what you meant regarding the “Hebrew” scriptures. All scriptures are “Hebrew” scriptures. The so-called “NT” was written in Greek because the Israelites who had been scattered spoke Greek, just like the blacks of the captivity speak English. I don’t care about the Asian woman. Black women always want to deflect their wickedness by talking about another race of woman. It is part of their culture to practice ritualistic prostitution and p*dophilia. I’m not concerned with the customs of the heathen nations. If you really want to go there though, the men of the other nations have the power to kill their woman lawfully for disrespect and disobedience, which is why they don’t have to rant about their women. The black woman was created to be a consort and helpmeet to the black man according to the Bible and she is derelict in that duty due to the dereliction of the black male in serving the Most High and Christ. Period. “Being a whore is all in the mind, not in actions.”???? Oh really lol? Is that scriptural, or is that more female opinionating going on??? In other words, you can play the whore but as long as you scream “God” and “Jesus”, the Lord is dealing with you lol? Is that what the scriptures state (Matt 21:28-31)? Again, this is why you sisters have no place teaching the scriptures. No one is “mad” miss. This is business, not personal. You women have a role to play, you will play it out until the end, and will receive a righteous judgment, as will the men, children, and other nations. No, YOU can “discipline” people how you see fit. The scriptures tell men how they should prophesy (Isaiah 13:2,58:1, etc.).

@ JUDAH

LOL, I’m not petered out (???). Just trying to make sense of some things. I always looked at all humans the same way, with the same provisions. That’s why I can’t seem to understand why we are the only ones to be reprimanded. I thought God will gather various ones who follow his will from around the world (Matt 7:24; Luke 6:47; Rev 7:9; Col 1:23; Rev 14:6) If that is not the case, why would Christ instruct his disciples to preach and teach all peoples (Matt 28:19,20)? But if you do look at the state of blacks throughout the world, there is no doubt we are under special scrutiny. But Jesus stated how one will know who are his true disciples/people. And he gave the answer in Matt 7;19,20; John 13:35; 1 Cor 1;10. And the biggest commission he gave was to preach. There is only one group of people I know of that does this collectively and consistently. Many would claim to be “chosen” or followers of Christ though (Matt 7:22,23), but only time will tell. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

@CHEERS

Yes you’re petered out lol. All “human beings” are not the same. One nation the Most High has hallowed (Deut 7:6), and others he has debased based on the nature he has given them (Prov 16:4,Isa 40:15-17,Romans 9:21,22). The blacks of the captivity have been brought low because the Lord stated that if we did not adhere to his commandments, he would put the curses on us (Deut 28:15-68, Dan 9:11-15). The scattered that will be gathered out of every nation are the Israelites who were led and sold unto every nation (Isa 10:20-22, Ezek 28:25). That is why Christ stated that his apostles must teach “all nations”. The proof of this is that 1)Paul even quotes Isaiah 10:22 when speaking to the Israelites in Rome in the book of Romans 9:27. 2)In addition to that, Christ states that the NATIONS will be brought into hard subjection (Rev 2:26-28). As I stated to someone else, he is coming back to lay the nations flat (Rev 19:10-21). Why do you think that the apostles asked him when would he restore the kingdom to ISRAEL before he ascended (Acts 1:6). What people is that who “preach consistently”? Please give me a good belly laugh and say “Jehovah’s Witness” lmao? You can preach all day and night, and if it is not of God, it means nothing (Matt 7:21-23). The Jehovah’s Witness cult was started by Charles Taze Russell, a so-called “caucasian”, known in the scriptures as “edomites”, and he was a 33rd degree mason (a Luciferian witch). “We” are not waiting to see anything. I’m seeing it right now. Your doctrine is weak, and you have shown that you know nothing of what you speak of based on our little interaction on this website. I hope that you are not one of their ambassadors. Then again, you may be one of their strongest “preachers” lol.

LOL of course you would say that. That is your generic answer to everything. Luciferian Witch? Please. You most certainly cannot prove he was apart of that society. If you can, you will have a point. If you cannot, then I will continue learning what I am learning. After all, I wouldn’t want to blatantly follow something that is of Satan (John 8:32). If you feel I know nothing, then like I stated before, I have been taught nothing (by men). And no, I am not an ambassador of anything, that is why I never stated being apart of anything, you did. Do you wanna join or something? LOL Regarding the Israelites, I don’t know what else to say. That information does make sense.

@CHEERS

Lol, if I give a generic answer to everything, then you’d be a fool to continue to ask me questions. Charles Taze Russell (the white man that you worship in the Jehovah’s Witness cult) was a 33rd degree mason, which is nothing but a Luciferian witch. The proof that he was a mason is the pyramid tombstone that he has with the masonic imagery on it. Furthermore, as a caucasian, he has no place teaching the scriptures, and beyond that he was an ardent racist. The proof that the masons are Luciferian witches is the treatise written by Albert Pike, the top mason of the 19th century, in which he states in his book “Morals and Dogma” that the “god” of the masons is Lucifer. You are clearly a Luciferian yourself just looking at your unbelief in the Bible. You have contradicted what the Bible states in plain text numerous times on this thread. No one in these churches is “blatantly” following Satan. You are following him unbeknownst to you because Satan knows how to seduce the simple. You are clearly a closet feminist, and like all other women, you are unfit to teach the scriptures because you have no understanding, and the Lord did not create you women to teach anyone the scriptures. Please understand that I do not care whether or not you continue to learn what you are learning, nor am I trying to “convert” you lol. When I see anyone spew lies pertaining to the scriptures, they will be corrected. You’re not an ambassador now?? So now you’re telling me that you do not go door to door annoying people early in the morning? Don’t lie miss, please.

@JUDAH

Calling everyone a Freemason is what I said was generic. Are you trying to find fault with me? I’m asking questions because I’m curious and that I’m also opened to being corrected. And I do thank you for the information you have given me. Closet feminist? Ha! Feminists wish they were men. For the fact I want to preach does not mean I want to take on the role of a man (nor do I desire to be one). I never said that I wanted to “teach”.

Regarding Charles Russell, I don’t doubt that he was initially involved in a “special group”, but God can use anybody he chooses to carry out a will, just as he used Rehab who was a whore. Charles Russell did not “create” the religion (as many claim), but simply revived it after it had been dead for hundreds of years. He wasn’t even a “Jehovah’s Witness”. He just brought some of their doctrines to light. And I am sure this is why he was “mysteriously” found dead. A cult? What do we do that is cultish??? We are the only ones who adhere specifically to the bible. For the reasons why we do not celebrate pagan holidays, do not smoke, do not date casually, do not salute the flag (or sing national anthems), do not join the military, we actually read the bible, nor do we vote. Even women aren’t allowed to teach/instruct. We’re the only group that can congregate together without violence. And you think anyone can go door to door? Isn’t that what Christ commissioned? It’s takes a special spirit to be able to do that, and that is God’s spirit. I know for a fact that others (and you) cannot do that (This isn’t to be read in an argumentative tone by the way).

@CHEERS

I call people Freemasons who are freemasons. I call people Luciferians who are Luciferians, and I call people idiots who are idiots. If you cannot handle reality, that is your problem, not mine. I do not have to cater to your simplicity. You must raise your level before you retort. To “preach” miss, you must have the knowledge of the scriptures. You do not have that. You are a false teacher in a false movement. The job of teaching and preaching is for the men. You wish to preach, which means that you wish to be a man. Hopefully you can grasp this.

Lmao, Charles Russell “revived” the religion from what miss? I hope you are not implying that he “revived” the “Jehovah’s Witness” religion from the truth of Christ lol? Rahab was a pawn. She was not the creator or “reviver” of a religion, so that is a terrible comparison. First off, there is no such god as “Jehovah”. Secondly, the witnesses of the Most High are the chosen of the Israelites (Isaiah 43:9-12). A non-Israelite cannot revive the truth of the Most High. There can be no lie in the message of a man of God. Are you so proud in your religion that you expect me to believe that a Luciferian revived the truth of the Most High lol? I’ve asked you numerous questions, and you have not answered one correctly. You’ve shown no knowledge of what you think you speak of (Matt 22:29)….but allegedly you “adhere to the scriptures”?? Do you keep the high holydays stipulated in Leviticus 23rd chapter? Do you understand that the Most High is only dealing with the Israelites (Psalms 147:19,20, Amos 3:1, etc.)? You clearly DO NOT read the Bible, nor understand it. It takes God’s spirit to receive and understand the truth (John 17:17). Every mailman on planet earth goes from “door to door” lol. You must first know what you speak about before you can state that you have been commissioned by “God”. You do not know God, so your god is Satan. Lastly, what you ended your comment with WAS meant to be argumentative and proud lol, so don’t try to slither out of it. Our brothers speak out in the open how it is supposed to be done (Prov 1:20,21), not going from “house to house”. Christ commissioned the disciples to go from house to house to “who was worthy” in Matt 10:5-16 because they were to go to the ISRAELITES (Matt 10:5). The ones who were “worthy” are the CHOSEN of Israel. Are you going to ISRAELITES? Are you telling ISRAELITES that the kingdom of heaven is at hand? You do not have the wisdom, nor spirit to do so because the Lord is not dealing with you or your fictitious “movement”. Do you know what the “kingdom of heaven” is and who it is for? I know for a FACT that you do not, so your entire “ministry” is is vain lol.

So you are saying that you do not know the name of God? What is it then? Jehovah is the English translation for Yahweh. Of course Israelites “were” the chosen. But they no longer are. God can change his purpose any time he wishes to. The nation of Israel initially rejected God’s message, so God made means for other nations and peoples to come to know him in order to fulfill his purpose. Why does it say in Romans 9:6 that “all from Israel are not really Israel”?? Can you explain the illustration regarding the olive tree in the 11th chapter of Romans then?? Call me an idiot all you want (it takes one to know one) but I am not illiterate. And please cease from calling names too, you’re hurting my feelings. Maybe you are upset that a “woman” is presenting information. lol

@CHEERS

No I’m saying that YOU, nor your organization, know the name of God. There is no such deity as “Jehovah”, and that is not the English translation of the Lord’s Name. The letter “J” was invented by the caucasian in the 1700′s to purposefully throw of the correct pronounciation of the Lord’s Name. If you do not know the Lord’s Name, He does not answer your prayer. Nor is the letter “V” in the ancient Hebrew, or many of these vowels. All the rest of that nonsense about the Israelites no longer being the chosen is B.S. that your making up, which is why you can provide no scriptures. God changes his purpose? Where is that? Is that what the Bible says or what YOU are saying? The Bible tells us that the Lord DOES NOT CHANGE (Malachi 3:6). The BIBLE tells us that the Most High has told us the END FROM THE BEGINNING (Isaiah 46:9,10). You must know the so-called OT in order to understand the NT. The problem with all you so-called “Christian” denominations and religions is that you are all emotionally driven, and the judgment aspect of the OT offends you, as opposed to what you believe to be the “emotional love” of the NT. The Bible tells us that the Israelites are the Lord’s Chosen (Isaiah 44:1). It tells us that Christ came for Israel (Matt 2:6, 15:24, Luke 1:68-80, Acts 5:31, etc.). It tells us that all the promises are for Israel (Romans 9:4). It tells us that God HAS NOT cast off his people, ISRAEL (Isa 41:8,9, Jer 31:35-37, Rom 11:1, etc.). I know for a fact that I have shown you these scriptures already. The “nation” of Israel DID NOT reject God’s message. The ELECT of Israel received him, and the scriptures tell us that (John 1:12,13, John 8:30-32, Acts 5:14, etc.). That is the point of Romans 9:6. Just because you are Israel in the flesh does not mean that the Lord is dealing with you. You have to be in the spirit within the nation of Israel. The scriptures tell us that 2/3rds of Israel will be cut off and die (Zech 13:8,9), but the remaining 1/3 will be brought through the affliction. This is the multitude of Rev 7:9. Romans 11th chapter uses the image of the Olive tree to convey the coming together of the Southern and Northern kingdom which was split after the fall of Solomon. This is why Ezekiel 37th chapter tells us that the kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of Ephraim will become one “stick” i.e. TREE (Ezek 37:11-28). Only the nation of Israel is known as the olive tree (Jeremiah 11:16). After the kingdom was split, there were now TWO olive trees, the kingdom of Judah and the Kingdom of Israel (Rev 11:3-5). Through the dream of Peter, the understanding was given that the Most High had allowed redemption for the Northern Kingdom, who had been cut off (II Kings 17:6-23, Jer 7:15). Cornelius was an Israelite of the Northern kingdom. The proof of this is that when they had the council concerning Peter’s dream (Acts 15:15-19), they cited the fulfillment of Amos 9:12, which is the restoration of the tabernacle (kingdom) of David. The term “residue” Acts 15:19 is just another way of saying remnant (Isaiah 10:20-22, Zeph 3:13, etc.). David ruled over ALL TWELVE tribes. This is why Christ said that he had “other sheep” and they would be “one fold”(John 10:16). When Christ was on the earth, he only spoke to the “Jews”, that being the Israelites of the southern kingdom. The scattered were predominately the Israelites of the nothern kingdom. This is why Paul tells us in Romans 11th chapter that the branches of the “wild olive tree” would be grafted into the tree of the “good olive tree” (Romans 11:24). The “wild olive tree” is the northern kingdom of Israel (Hosea 8:8,9).

I have no reason to make anything up. I simply read the bible just like you do. Only difference: misinterpretation and lack of understanding. I have reread that passage over. Well, God sees the heart, and that is the only way many of us (including myself) can be saved. So what is God’s name then? Is it Yahweh or Yeshua?

My bad. I think Yeshua means Joshua. lol

That’s not true. I took my woman back after cheating, she begged and I’ve been working to forgive her to that end. Call me a fool all you want. Over 60% of us the married populace in this country don’t know how to work through ANYTHING. There’s something else going on with us (American populace), to have a great MANY things going so wrong. Human beings are not disposable like trash. I love her enough to figure out where we are flawed at our CORE as people! If we don’t start doing the work as a individuals, we can’t pair up, mate, and cement our families as intended. And what does that mean? Continued decay of our communities.

Very well spoken, thank you.

@ TAMMY

What lmaooo? Miss, how many of your children’s fathers “cheated” on you with other men? Did they give you HIV? Is that why you have so much rage lmao? Just go out and have fun before the AIDS kicks in and you shrivel up. Stop coming on the internet and projecting your anger on others. Your unbelief in the Bible is why you have so many demons on you now, and if you have children, someone should take them from you because you bitter black women are the number one reason why the children are so confused. Who are you to “set ground rules for ‘men’ to adhere to” lmaooooo? Just by that comment, I know for a fact that you are very lonely miss lmao…..you have me over here with my stomach hurting. Why should someone “TRUST you”?? Did you “cheat” on your man and he left you in a cloud of dust like the Roadrunner lmao? Good for that man if that is the case. Awww man, you’re a clown. I always know when some silly-a$$ black woman stalks me on this website, it is because she is damn near finished and my comments convict her spirit. America is falling right now. I want to see how many of you “strong” black women will use your personal philosophy and catfish wisdom to save yourselves when all hell breaks loose out here….

Why would a real man marry you Your everything that the black woman needs to avoid,you d@mn “idiot” what man in his right mind would adhere to a woman,unless he thinks like a b*tch his d*mn self. Quit worrying about other women and get that vagabond you procreated with to teach you how to act like someone with common sense.You Blackwomen get on my Fuckin nerves with all this feminist rhetoric your not even intelligent enough to creat your own doctrine so you had to regurgitate some nonesense you heard come out of some cavewomans mouth. You blackwomen are bigger devils than these white men.
So now you want to kill judah lol.

I remember you brotha lol. The scriptures tell us that under all conditions regarding the law, it must be justified by 2 or 3 witnesses and brought before a judge or judges (Deut 17:6, 19:15, Matt 18:16, II Cor 13:1, I Tim 5:19, etc.). It is the same in a case of self-defense. In the ancient time, there were “cities of refuge” where a “slayer” could flee to when he killed a person so that he could sojourn there until it was established whether it was justified as to why he killed that person (Numbers 35th chapter). We are to try to avoid physical violence unless necessary to protect yourself or your family (Ecclesiastes 3:1,3). A gainsayer may come and say that “Christ said all that take the sword will persih with the sword” (Matt 26:52). That simply means that you must know what time your in. Christ himself will come to defend his chosen and the scripture tells you that he will kill so many people that his garments will be dyed red and the blood will come up to the bridle of his horse (Isaiah 63:1-6, Revelation 14:14-20).